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Top Aide To Rep. Tom Reynolds Says He Told Hastert's Office About Foley's Conduct

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by marcelde October 5, 2006 4:51 AM EDT
I am strongly against Bush's war in Iraq. But I do agree with this post of mlsbas:

"In the matter of Mr. Foley and his current "scandal," it is important for us all to slow down and allow the investigation to proceed.

"Each of us is entitled to due process, and Mr. Foley is no exception. If the reports publicized over the past 48 hours are determined to be true, then the process will move forward and Mr. Foley will incur negative consequences.

I am neither excusing nor defending anyone, but ask people to remember the system under which we live."
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by searingtruth October 5, 2006 3:10 AM EDT
"It is a happy circumstance in human affairs that evils which are not cured in one way will cure themselves in some other."
Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Sinclair, 1791

"As a regular and proud violator of the law myself, I was shocked and disgusted that others had also proudly ignored and violated the law."
The Republican Party

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by October 5, 2006 2:56 AM EDT
If the Pages were embryos this would never have happened.
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by mlsbas October 5, 2006 1:56 AM EDT
In the matter of Mr. Foley and his current "scandal," it is important for us all to slow down and allow the investigation to proceed.

Each of us is entitled to due process, and Mr. Foley is no exception. If the reports publicized over the past 48 hours are determined to be true, then the process will move forward and Mr. Foley will incur negative consequences.

I am neither excusing nor defending anyone, but ask people to remember the system under which we live.
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by stevex47 October 5, 2006 1:35 AM EDT
Wolves in sheep's clothing have been leading the poor little flock of sheep for a long time. You've been making your bed in it....now lie in it.
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by rumi3 October 5, 2006 1:24 AM EDT
well I believe what goes around comes around what you do in this world will come back to you, if you do good people will do good to you and always the response is several times over. It is the same way as a group, community, and country. Yes believe it or not that's how nature reacts. Remember when Republican Party hunted Clinton for his lies? Well now they are been hunted with lies after lies sometimes it feels it will never end. Remember Rush on the radio how he ridiculed the drug users I even remember saying one time they should lock them up and throw away the keys, then his secrets as a drug junkie came to light, and wasn't Foley the one responsible for law against pedophiles now he may be prosecuted with same law.
I remember once Gandhi say to an American reporter," I like your Jesus but I don't like your Christians" after all Gandhi was not a Christian but still he believed in "amongst you whoever is without sin cast the first stone"
The point here is what ever you say you must practice
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by getcentered October 5, 2006 1:16 AM EDT
Funky pedophile protecting politicians creep me out.

Funky pedophile politicians creep me out.

Funky pedophiles creep me out.

These are our leaders?

I mean come on!

Funky old, out of touch, fools, with too much power.

It is time to VOTE in some fresh NEW minds.

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by pakaal October 5, 2006 1:05 AM EDT
Do folks understand why teachers who get caught in 'relations' with their students are fired? Even if this wasn't illegal (which apparently it is, according to federal child protection laws passed this year by Pres. Bush), it's profoundly unethical and immoral. It's an abuse of power, just as is Hastert, Boehner, Reynolds and Kirkland's coverup. Particularly since this situation involves elected public officials, who are (rightfully) held to higher standards than us regular folk. They did wrong by the American people, and should resign immediately (and yes, applause to Kirkland for already having done so).
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by neitherone October 5, 2006 12:58 AM EDT
lestbe35,

"Well, of that's the definition of a pedaphile I'd say the majority of straight men are DEFINATELY pedaphiles."

Your conclusions are far flung and WIIIIILD! LMAO!
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by pakaal October 5, 2006 12:54 AM EDT
Tarquinius2, just this year President Bush (with Mark Foley standing behind him) signed the Adam Walsh Child Protection Safety Act of 2006, making it a federal crime to solicit *** from a minor, defined in that law as anyone under the age of 18. By the definition of federal law cosponsored by Mark Foley himself, it looks like yes, what he did was illegal.

And frankly, even if it wasn't illegal, it was immoral, as was Hastert, Boehner, Reynolds and Kirkland's behavior in trying to cover it up rather than do the right thing.

So much for the apologists of the "Party of Family Values", it seems they reserve all the moral outrage for those of the other party, and when it comes to their own, it's all about spinning it any way they can to make it seem like nothing happened, or that it wasn't illegal, or that it's because Foley's an alcoholic, etc. Talk about lacking a moral compass!
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by lestb35 October 5, 2006 12:50 AM EDT
I think a lot of things are "sick" some more sicker than others. THis doesn't offend as other stuff. Violence and porn kind of gross me out.
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by pakaal October 5, 2006 12:43 AM EDT
Hey, speak for yourself, lestb35. the vast majority of us men realize (unlike yourself it seems) that hitting on high school kids is usually legally, and always morally, reprehensible. It`s one thing to look at young women (or men in Foley's case) in magazines or whatever, it`s another to go out and hit on high school kids for ***, particularly a whole bunch of them, more particularly when the guy`s over 50, and in a position of power in our Congress, supposed "champion" of protecting children.

You`re saying that if you saw some middle-aged guy cozying up with a schoolgirl you wouldn`t immediately think to yourself "that's sick"? Moreso when the guy's an elected leader? If you don't think so, perhaps you need to check into rehab yourself.
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by tarquinius2 October 5, 2006 12:37 AM EDT
16 is the age of consent in most of the country including D.C. and being *** isn't a crime.

What's the big deal?
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by lestb35 October 5, 2006 12:36 AM EDT
OK, so at 17 they're a victim and at 18 they're fair game. I get it but it's just kind of silly. My grandma got married at 16 to my grandpa 30 and had eight kids.
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by a8m3h October 5, 2006 12:33 AM EDT
your not being nice... that word is printed in another comment... I was using it in the original text- ***=happy... as in" the dancing was very energetic & ***"

Widow Lady... so, don't print this... it is for you anywat
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by vipaka October 5, 2006 12:28 AM EDT
lestb 35:
I believe this issue has everything to do with saving children. Foley has claimed sexual abuse of clergy. He carries those scars, and I highly sympathize with him, but the question is why, when he was in a position of power didn't he go out on a limb to stop the cycle of abuse? And why don't others? And why isn't breaking the cycle of neurosis a number one priority for the leaders of our land? Let abusers get nicely punished and throw their victims out to the mental dumping ground. Punish the abusers in Joe Public, Joe Office, and Joe Preacher. Make it a stand on boundaries and a blessing under the law. And don't make victims have to pretend that it's okay anymore. Victims are guiltless.
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by lestb35 October 5, 2006 12:27 AM EDT
Well, of that's the definition of a pedaphile I'd say the majority of straight men are DEFINATELY pedaphiles.
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by a8m3h October 5, 2006 12:27 AM EDT
***...***...***...***...***...NOW ARE YOU HAPPY?
THAT'S WHAT THE WORD MEANS
This is for dpbir osc... who didn't see enough of the word
Now, will Americans wake up to the fact that term
limits ARE needed... Why cry after the affect, do something when you can, like in a couple months
Widow Lady
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by nothappyatall October 5, 2006 12:21 AM EDT
Oh hell Pakaal, these idiots get away with anything and everything, they lie, cheat, steal, vote their sorry behinds pay raises when they fell like it and it's time to say NO MORE!
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by nothappyatall October 5, 2006 12:20 AM EDT
"Any suggestion that Mark Foley is a paedophile is false, categorically false
David Roth, lawyer"


Oh?
Not according to this dictionary definition;


ped7o7phile Pronunciation (pd-fl, pd-)
n.
An adult who is sexually attracted to a child or children.


Let's see, child= minor, minor=child.
What ELSE would you call sexually explicit text and fantasy about a MONIOR'S "package"?
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