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Attorney General: ISPs Should Preserve Customer Info To Help Fight Kid Porn

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by hermit22 September 20, 2006 4:42 AM EDT
Doesn't anyone care about the kids? All the paranoid rhetoric, and no suggestions.

How would YOU catch those perverts on line?
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by crosbystills September 20, 2006 3:15 AM EDT
This is purely another attempt from the Bush Anti- Terror Squad( otherwise known as BATS)to exhume as much dirt on our lives in the name of Terrorism. They use child-porn as the reason but, like Senor Gonzales said they need info,info,info to prosecute. Prosecute what? Somebody that goes to an 18 under porn site, or the guy who goes to a Muslim site to try and understand? Or, fill in the blank? It's all a political tactic by the GOP to make a last ditch effort at election time. They have no interest in stopping child porn. Maybe THEY should clean their hard drive before they try and pass this BS!
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by getcentered September 20, 2006 2:36 AM EDT
Wow! Congress is on a role! First they pass the HORSE LAW and get move right along to the next ULTRA HIGH priority.....Kiddy Porn, Yea!

I mean come on!!

Where are Gonzales's priorities? Does the number of people making kiddy porn even compare to the number of people making crack cocaine? Or how about "The TERRORISTS".
Maybe this is just another distraction for us all to take in, as our leaders pass another law granting power to the Executive in Chief.

Ohh, I am so tired of the GOP/ Republican/ conservative way of doing things I could just puke. Where are the REAL Republicans?
You know, the ones that can think freely AND listen, and don't just repeat the latest Karl Rove Talking Point Memo (KRTPM)!!!!!!!
It seems they have all sold out :( ............. and so now it is time for them to get the boot.

.....but good job Gonzales,
you found us some more "evil doers"!
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by anony3141592 September 20, 2006 2:13 AM EDT
"proposal would not call for the content of communications to be preserved"

So, it doesn't matter what I happen to be saying to (or listening to) a site, only what sites I'm talking to? As an example, suppose my computer gets infected with a virus that sends HTTP requests to random entries in a list of child porn URLs. I haven't done anything (or even know anything is happening), but my ISP suddenly has a million data bits linking me to CP sites. With a law like this, I could suddenly find myself under investigation - my private files and documents searched through, my business activities on hold, and my good name ruined.

Come to think of it, if this passes, such a software attack could become an excellent way to frame or blackmail someone. A law like this would leave a lot more innocent casualties than genuine wrongdoers caught.
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by rainingwolf3 September 20, 2006 1:29 AM EDT
If you are not outraged--you are NOT paying attention!
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by justtwo September 20, 2006 12:38 AM EDT
Will this law just be used for child porn OR could it in the future, be used to harrass me if I look up a website that is not in line with the repub. party?
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by ombwah September 19, 2006 11:40 PM EDT
So, here's a couple issues that no one seems to point out.

1st, and foremost at that:
Child pornography doesn't *occur* on the internet. Neither is it a market making real money on the internet. It is content of indeterminate real age that is traded from peer to peer on shady websites, and generally *not* by the original creator of the sicka*s content. This is because most peddlers/distributors of this *** are bright enough to cover their pedophilic as*es.

In short, this legislation will do literally F**k-all to stop it from occurring.

2nd. Don't these politicians realize that if this data exists I can, by extension, subpeona their internet useage records since the public pays for their access? How'd they like that?

They've got to realize that this legislation only drives a grey market of easy to use anonymizer tech that makes the job of catching careless sickos harder for them, while not stemming the actual criminal activity one bit (There was kiddie porn well before the internet was a glimmer of an inkling.)

So, I'm throwing the BS card.

Also consider; Is this a bid to watch your activities for *any* reason at all? Just using the hotbutton "Oh god not my children" tactic to get the vote of the technologically ignorant?

Coouuld beee!
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by gottaberando September 19, 2006 11:01 PM EDT
I'm not very up-to-date on this topic, but would someone please explain to me why there is such a sudden need for this legislation? Has MJ started putting videos of him molesting little boys onto YouTube, and the Bush administration is out to catch whoever looks at it? I'd like to know more about how they plan to analyze the data, and decide who goes to a secret CIA prision, and who doesn't. Perhaps it will be based on how much money you gave the Republican Party last election. I don't know, I'm all for stopping pedophiles, but I don't really trust the government to capture and handle the data in the appropriate manner. I think I'd rather have my freedoms and not have the nanny state watching my evermove to ensure that I don't do anything they wouldn't want. Oh no, that might include going to Cuba on my non-American passport! The less freedoms Bush revokes the better off we'll all be in 2009. The next thing you know, the government will be siding with the big corporations, and we'll all have to pay outragious amounts of money to look at /. because Net Neutrality got shot by *** Cheney. This is like the Australian bill to ban all pornography sites unless the user specifies otherwise. I don't need the government making my decisions, I'm capable enough to do that myself.
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by cantshutup September 19, 2006 8:58 PM EDT
GONZALES, YOU FREAK!
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by cantshutup September 19, 2006 8:55 PM EDT
so they keep on keepin on...if you haven't called, emailed, or written your representatives and congresspeople do so now...i can't believe anyone would buy this BS!!! this administration is scary and put iran on top of it...what a giant CLUSTER PHLUCK!!!
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by cincigal74 September 19, 2006 8:38 PM EDT
Does ANYONE really believe one word rhis thug says?Like he cares about kiddie porn.In a pigs eye.
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by star2874 September 19, 2006 7:55 PM EDT
"Renditions," "Torture," "Illegal Wire Taps," "Imprisonment Without Trial," "Secret Evidence." This must be the Soviet Union. Oh...I'm sorry...it's the new United States of America. You know, the one we all fought for. When will our citizens wake-up? Where's the outrage? I guess it will be there after all of their rights are gone. I never thought I'd hear discussions and proposals like this in the U.S.
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by jeff776 September 19, 2006 7:12 PM EDT
Dateline NBC does a better job realing in cho-mo's than the FBI.
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by jeff776 September 19, 2006 7:07 PM EDT
We want ISP's numbers to preserve customers information so...uh...so we can...uh....uh Fight Child Porn! Yah that's right we are launching a new fight against child porn one of my biggest battles yet.


*whispers to secretary*

Do you think they are buying it?
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by sagethrasher September 19, 2006 6:51 PM EDT
Unfortunately, Gonzales has no more remaining personal credibility than anyone else in this administration. It's simply not possible to trust his stated intentions anymore.
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by jshudson2 September 19, 2006 6:31 PM EDT
This has nothing to do with child pornography. The US Government is spying on you and the information Mr. Gonzales collects will be used to oppress and control you.
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by xfredmenzies September 19, 2006 6:23 PM EDT
Why is Alberto Gonzales so obsessed with child porn? I'll bet he is a kiddy fiddler himself.
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