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In U.N Speech, Ahmadinejad Accuses U.S. Of Abusing Security Council

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by shutupmurtha September 20, 2006 12:42 AM EDT
Agnim, You are right as John Quincy Adams said in 1830

"In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar [i.e., Muhammad], the Egyptian, [.....] Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female ***, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST.- TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE.... Between these two religions, thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. The war is yet flagrant ... While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon earth, and good will towards men."

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by shutupmurtha September 20, 2006 12:39 AM EDT
His nuke program is just as peaceful as the religion of Islam. Get HITLER OUT OF MY COUNTRY!
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by theprinze September 20, 2006 12:26 AM EDT
It is regretable that we have witnessed so many slip ups in the past 6 years, that some of you Americans are still blind to the deceipt and fear your Government Preaches. You need not look to your own ever growing domestic problems, unemployment, education and health care, to see that your government is acting on the interests of the small minority high ranking officials and rich corporations and not the people. Why wouldnt Bush sit down and talk with Ahmedinejad? Tell me give me one good reason? U meet in a remote place, if he doesnt like whats being said he can get up and bounce. But he refuses for what reasons?? Isnt his truth and belief in "our generations calling" sufficient enough ammo along with the backing of the greatest people in the world, isnt that enough ammo to go to diplomatic war with? The only way it wouldnt, is if yer an Idiot like Mr bush, or if your intentions are not genuine and your calling not truth.
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by ronniehm September 20, 2006 12:16 AM EDT
Alphaa, it comes down to this. Either I believe you and al qaeda, or I believe George Bush and the president of Iraq.
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by tomflint69 September 19, 2006 11:52 PM EDT
~ LONG LIVE PRESIDENT BUSH AND HIS POLICIES. REST OF THE IDIOTS WHO ARE AGAINST HIM, SHUT UP & GET LOST.
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by alphaa10-2009 September 19, 2006 11:31 PM EDT
Bush said-- "<b>We are not at war with Islam."</b>

Talk about a wasted, hopeless PR campaign-- not to mention real proof that official speeches never prove anything near what they intend to prove.

If Bush were only a comedian for gallows humor, this statement would leave the Islamic world laughing. No American president in history has been more despised and reviled than Bush, in the MidEast or beyond. Heckuva job, Bush!
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by joehawkinson September 19, 2006 11:29 PM EDT
Talking about "insane Islam", AGNIM you must be insane! Look at this "sane?" Agnim and what he says , this all wise and humane individual says "Instead, EMPTY and level the mosques and burn the Korans, starting with any found in the US.There should not be a mosque or Koran allowed in the US. Let these sick symbols of the insane Islam remain on the Arabian Peninsula if the inhabitants wish them there."
Can someone be more idiot than the writer of the above. Level the mosques and ban Quran. Well Soviets did just that in Central Asia and some administrations of Turkish Republic did close the mosques and banned the Quran. It did not work. AGNIM why is all this inferiority complex. Can you not fight with your "sane" ideology ? is not your "sane" ideology enough, may be not huh? That's why you are all for physical force and bombing etc. Your desperate cry and crazy ideas mean clearly that you lack the intellect and knowledge to defend your thoughts and arguments and, whatever you believe is loosing against Islam so that you are crying for waging war against a religion. AGNIM You sound very pathetic to say the least. We are in 21st century and there is no place in the world for religious nutcases or Neo-con fascists like you.
Reason, dialog are our only means for World's peace and Muslims must work hard to get rid of the extremist minority that represent them in the World arena. Muslims if you think you are being misunderstood speak up.
Joe
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by alphaa10-2009 September 19, 2006 11:24 PM EDT
One_American said-- "<b>Proof that President Bush's policies have been working... A statement from Iraqi President Talabani, today...</b>

One_American, even you understand no "proof" rests on official speeches, especially the captive "leader" of an occupied country. But do you object to the term, "occupied" instead of "liberated"? Then thank Bush-- in addition to all his other blunders, he characterized Iraq in exactly those terms.

But if official speeches count, what makes them official? The American Third Infantry Division?

But to return to the painful question, what makes such official pronouncements true? Or should we alao hail Chalabi for his "contributions" to Bush pre-Iraq invasion intel as a loyal Iranian agent-- just because Bush and Cheney were taken in and feted him and the INC so grandly?
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by alphaa10-2009 September 19, 2006 11:12 PM EDT
RonnieHM said-- "<b>So when the bad guys said they would be blowing up polling stations and the voters went anyway, what was that? Stupidity?</b>"

No, it was a vain display of hope, which, despite our claims, we have helped trash though sheer ineptitude. While Iraqis hope for better conditions, most Iraqis-- and probably al Maliki and Talabani, as well-- believe that day will not arrive ahead of a US Army convoy. Iraqis want us out.
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by roythelib September 19, 2006 10:33 PM EDT
Agnim, a little religious cleansing huh. Where have I heard that before?

What we do need is for the non-extremist Muslims to stand up to the extremist who have hijacked their religion and expoilted it for another political agenda. This extreme view of Islam cannot be defeated from the outside, only from within. Only exposing these charlatans for what they really are can bring them down.

We could also use the help of our friends the Saudi and Pakistani and others in shuting down the madrassas which are furthering the spread of the wahhabism sect.
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by agnim September 19, 2006 10:09 PM EDT
RonnieHM, Agnim is weird because Agnim would rather target an idiotic ideology (which the insane islam is) than to target the unfortunate humans who happen to be maniac muslims?

You think that a bunch of ideas (insane islam) has more value than one sentient HUMAN?

You think that the insane islam and its signs and symbols are worth more than the least among HUMANS?

If your answer to the above is the affirmative, then know why we have a certified idiotic leadership that values an inimical ideology over HUMANS: People like yourself elect or allow such a misguided leadership.

Islam should be the target along with its signs and symbols.

Islam needs to be eradicated from the planet so that it ceases to be used as a mental poison for insane islamic minds and so incline them to perpetuate even greater evil on the land.
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by roythelib September 19, 2006 9:46 PM EDT
There is a root problem in trying to establish democracy in Iraq that this administration is determined to ignore (from the begining), the Iraqi have never been unified as a single Iraqi people. They lack the national identity as Iraqi people, they are Sunni, Kurd, Shia with religious/tribal allegiances. Iraq has only been held together with force, constructed by outsiders. I think ultimately what we will see is a three province Iraq, with little central power or control. Once they can figure out how to share the oil and other natural resources to everyones agreement, they can essentially power share and create the three provinces.
Do the Iraqi people want freedom ? Yes of course they do, it just might not be the same western version that we have or see. We say we want them to have freedom, what if they freely choose a fundemental Islamic goverment?
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by one_american September 19, 2006 9:28 PM EDT
PRESIDENT TALABANI: (continued)
"This government is representing main portions of Iraqi people, of course Arabs, Sunnis, Shias, Turkomans, Christians, Muslims, everyone represented in this government, and is working well for national reconciliation. I briefed his Excellency, President, about the steps we have taken towards implementing -- implementation of national reconciliation program, and also I told him that we are trying to do our best to remove all obstacles in the way of national reconciliation to try to review, some of those like de-Baathification and look to the amendment of a constitution and also try to have some kind of discussion, free discussion about federation and some other issues. We have also our roadmap in Iraq, which was decided by a political council of national security for solving other problems of Iraqi people.

<b>We, again, expressed our gratitude to his Excellency, our dear friend, President George Bush, and to American people. We hope that America also understand that we are grateful to them, to the America, and we will never forget those friends who helped us in the difficult days of Iraq, and Iraq will be always in the future in very good relation and be the friend of the United States and partner of United States in fighting against tyranny, dictatorship and terrorism. You can count on the Iraqi people, Mr. President, in fighting against terrorism and for democratization of whole Middle East"</b>.
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by one_american September 19, 2006 9:25 PM EDT
Proof that President Bush's policies have been working.

A statement from Iraqi President Talabani, today:

PRESIDENT TALABANI: "Thank you. <b>Today we were honored to meet President Bush, who we consider him as the hero of liberation of Iraq, and who we are very much appreciate the sacrifice of brave American army, those who gave their life to liberate our country from the worst kind of dictatorship</b>, which left behind mass graves with hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis in it. And the liberation of Iraq from this kind of dictatorship opened the door for Iraqi people to enjoy democracy, human rights and all kinds of liberties, and to have free election, the national assembly then elects the presidency and speaker and prime minister, and to have national unity, a government headed by Dr. Maliki."
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by ronniehm September 19, 2006 9:21 PM EDT
Agnim, you're weird.
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by ronniehm September 19, 2006 9:06 PM EDT
"They don't want anything to do with our "Western" democratic system."

So when the bad guys said they would be blowing up polling stations and the voters went anyway, what was that? Stupidity?
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by clestes-2009 September 19, 2006 8:53 PM EDT
What a hypocrit.
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by ronniehm September 19, 2006 8:52 PM EDT
"Try history more recent. 1945 - now. US foreign policy"

Do you want to talk about the root problem, or are you just trying to make America look bad? You can't just pick a year and say don't look at anything before that. You want to make it look like we just decided one day out of the clear blue sky to start bothering people, and everything was just groovy before World War II. Well the reason they call it World War II is because there was a World War I.
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by agnim September 19, 2006 8:40 PM EDT
The bush blunders continue to pile up and this is one of the biggest bush blunders!
Bush is dead WRONG on the insane islam!

The destruction of the signs and symbols of the islamic insanity should be the target, and not the unfortunate HUMANS who have been brainwashed into islam over the generations!

Islam is just a dam ideology, people, a bunch of ideas!
Islam IS NOT a sentient being.
Attacking islam and destroying the inimical ideology should be the target, not humans.

We SHOULD NOT be targeting humans! We should not be raining bombs on women and children.
Instead, EMPTY and level the mosques and burn the korans, starting with any found in the US.

There should not be a mosque or koran allowed in the US. Let these sick symbols of the insane islam remain on the Arabian Peninsula if the inhabitants wish them there.

And touche to the Arabs for not allowing any churches in Arabia. Can't say I blame them either.
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by patriotic9 September 19, 2006 7:52 PM EDT
President Bush was supposed to speak as the President of US not as a Bishop.While discussing the conflict between the Palestinians and the European invaders in Palestine he used the word HOLY LAND for that region which goes against the constitution of United States which separates church from state.I hope,he is not among one of those enemies of United States who don't believe in the constitution which separates church from state.Who want to support the illegitimate and unjustified existance of Israel on the world map on the cost of American money and American lives because according to their Radical,Racist,Unjust and Backward ideology,Americans are GOD NEGLECTED and the EUROPEAN INVADERS IN PALESTINE are GOD CHOOSEN.
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