Comments on: Iran President: Our Nukes Are Peaceful

In U.N Speech, Ahmadinejad Accuses U.S. Of Abusing Security Council

[clestes-2009]

Ronnie, you are naive. Wars are always fought for money. The perpertrators hide it behind high sounding reasons like "States rights" or "convert the natives" or "WMD". Otherwise the masses would not follow them.

Take a good hard look at who benefits. The middle east is awash in oil and the US is the biggest consumer of oil in the world. Bottom line, it's big oil behind this little fiasco. Remember Bush, Cheney, Rummy, Rice came from oil money and still have ties to it.

[mrx3009]

I don't recall when Iran denied that it had a nuclear power program, and if they did so, it would indeed be ridiculous for the United States to believe Iran, since it helped found their nuclear program. I also find it difficult that you find it so ridiculous that Iran remains distrustful of the United States only 53 years after it overthrew their prime minister, when we take our lesson from World War II and Vietnam. To ignore the past would be a completely idiotic choice, and not one that I think that Ahmadinejad would make.

While it is easy to label President Ahmadinejad as "a nut" by repeatedly quoting him as saying Israel must be "wiped off the map", it is not as easy to listen to his actual position. He has said in recent interviews that he is disgusted by the fact that Western powers are using the Holocaust as an excuse to displace and dispossess millions of Palestineans and install an occupying regime. Since you support the Israeli government, then maybe you can explain why Palestineans should pay for the war crimes of Hitler and the Nazis?

As for who the Shah replaced, I'm assuming you're talking about Mossadegh? He was a democratically elected and popular prime minister. He saw the monopoly the British had over the Iranian oil industry, taking a largely disproportionate profit and causing massive pollution problems, and as a result attempted to nationalize it. The British then sought the help of the CIA to enact a coup to overthrow the Prime Minister, which succeeded.

[ronniehm]

Yeah, poor little Iran. We just keep picking on them while they peacefully declare their intentions to "wipe Israel off the map" and "take over the world." For 18 years, they swore up and down they didn't even have a nuclear program, and you think they're not working on a bomb? Now that's ignorance. And 1953? You think Ahmadinejad is angry about 1953? Oh please. The guy's counting the days until the return of his little hidden imam. He's a nut. My goodness, you really have to be a kook to think Bush is the bad guy in this one. I mean there's politics, and then there's plain stupidity. Even the UN passed a resolution condemning Iran. 1953? Come on. I mean I"m not saying the Shah was great, but did you get a load of the guy he replaced? You America-haters act like we just show up in random countries and pick new leaders for them. And you call other people narrow-minded?

[mrx3009]

RonnieHM-

It is because of ignorance like yours that this country can be controlled by fools, who are so quick to act and too stupid to learn. Before you go threatening to nuke Iran into "a sheet of glass", it would probably help to learn a little about the history of current events, instead of acting off the narrow sighted information you have now. Unlike Americans, those in Iran clearly remember when the CIA overthrew their democratically elected Prime Minister Mossadegh, and left in his place a US controlled dictatorship under the Shah in 1953.

Also, it might be new information to you that Iran's nuclear program was created with the support of Germany and the USA in the 1970's. After the 1979 revolution, with the US's puppet removed from power, the US refused to deliver the fuel it was paid for or refund the money it was paid.

More recently, the UN's IAEA declared in 2003 that there was no evidence that Iran was pursuing nuclear weapons, and in 2004, Iran voluntarily suspended uranium enrichment, although that is an action guaranteed under the NPT.

It is very important that we, as citizens of the US, the richest and most powerful country in the world, proceed with knowledge and caution, instead of the blind support of the hatred this government is spreading.

[ronniehm]

That's ridiculous. Of course we would intervene if they had no oil. I'm not going to debate suspicions, so either show me where we've only intervened in countries with oil or come up with something else. You're not going to prove an opinion with another opinion.

[clestes-2009]

Yeah, the response to something is all the oil the middle east has. Do you really think anyone would care about the middle east if not for MONEY.

[ronniehm]

You already know I don't agree that intervention is the root cause, because intervention is a response to something. A reponse to violent regimes can't possibly be the cause of violent regimes. That makes no sense. It's like saying chemo is the root cause of cancer. Yeah, it makes you sick, but you don't get chemo unless you already have cancer.

[clestes-2009]

Ronnie,

dithering over the year is hiding. The point you and everyone else never seem to address is the root one of the US foreign policy of intervention.

[ronniehm]

"And for Mr. Bush: A "false propaganda" means truth. Just for the record"

Propaganda is a message designed to influence opinion. It can be either true or false, for the record.

"And for God's sake it is Nuclear, not Nuceelar."

Agreed, although Eisenhower and Clinton often said it the same way. It's still annoying.

[ronniehm]

"Ah yes so the US is not putting in a full effort just like in Vietnam."
-PersianMight

You are correct. Thanks to liberals, Vietnam was not a full effort, and neither is Iraq. But make no mistake, PM, we are more than capable of turning your little Iran into a sheet of glass, and I'm beginning to think we should. Japan got over it. You'll get over it.

[thaprinze-2009]

PersianMight

I agree with you, and so does the rest of the world. AMERICANS arent bad ppl. It is those who represent america in such a fraudulent dishonest way that the world hates. If anything it is us in the west that are supressed by a governing body that controls and manipulates our perceptions, for their own positive gain. They tell us of imminent threats and we trust them because we believe we live in the freest of socieites because we voted them in they share our interests. When many times alone in the last 6 years we see evidence, that we have been lied to and our trust taken for granted. We had a great idea this Democracy of ours, and we did well by it for years, but now as power corrupted the Vatican church during the middle ages, and as it Corrupted Rome, and the Ottoman empire, so has it manipulated our perception of reality.

[persianmight]

"I mean you have no credibility in the world, nobody respects America in the world."

This is true, even though it was not always like this you know. Prior to WW2 America was respected and trusted in the middle-east because unlike the Europeons they didn't have colonial interests. I suggest you find out who Howard Baskerville is and why there his tomb is still paid tribute to in iran despite everything that has happened. It shows Iranians will respect Americans that show respect to others.

[persianmight]

@tellitasitis

Ah yes so the US is not putting in a full effort just like in Vietnam. Well in during the Vietnam war you dropped dropped more bombs than were employed by all sides during World War II and you were still forced to retreat. In this war you drop multi-million dollar missiles on one arab with an AK-47, torture prisoners and conduct massacres and you still haven't won.
As I said if you can't handle a country of 20 million perhaps you shouldn't prod a more powerful nation of 70 million. You may get more then you bargained for my little american friends.

[thaprinze-2009]

I am not one to stand by Iran's claims that their persuit of nuclear technology is for all peaceful terms. however i must credit Ahmadinejad for bringing to the attention of the world, the faults in the UN. Im from Canada America's B*tch. And honestly you Americans have to change your Foreign policy if u wish to defeat Terror. I mean you have no credibility in the world, nobody respects America in the world. And what do u plan on doing isolate yourselves like you've tried to isolate Muslims in the world? Bush must be ousted, and direct talks must be made with Iran. You cant go in and bomb iran, cuz oil will sky rocekt.. If you do not change your views of the world, then the world will sack the mighty US Empire. Think about it we live in the west here where Immigration is a key part of our demographics. How u gonna prevent anyone from coming into the country undercover and then commiting acts againts us? You cannot. This fear that has been bread in us, is solely to use us as pons so that big coperations can profit from war. How can u try and dictate peace in the Mid-East through Israel a country who isnt suppose to be there in the first place? You cannot, you further alienate and build hatred because of your bias choice.WE are not the only people in the world. And the rest will not bow to us based on threats of military action, if our cause is not genuine. "you cannot be so blind with patriotism, that you cannot see reality. Wrong is WRONG no matter WHO says it"

[ronniehm]

"When your army actually manages to defeat a rag tag arab insurgency"

Well, we could gas up the Enola G@y and demonstrate our ability to defeat your handful of scallawags, but for some reason we choose not to. But if you insist ...

[tellitasitis]

PersianMight

the only reason the entire fiasco is still on going is because WE still play with rules!

just like in ancient times when WE used to line up across from each other and shoot one another, it took the native americans to show them the way back then and we are now learning the "new" ways of "your" wars, once we reach our limit of tolerance with YOUR ignorance etc... it will swiftly become another story entirely

[mjv2944]

If their nukes are peaceful then I'm going to have a set of wings grow out of my a-- and fly off the top of the UN building. These people live in lies and deceptions.

[persianmight]

@dwe061480

When your army actually manages to defeat a rag tag arab insurgency then you might want to start thinking about trying your luck with Iran. The last time US sodliers were in Iran 8 of them died without even encountering Iranian troops.

[dwe061480-2009]

The only way to deal with fanatics like the Iranian leadership and peoples alike that fit this criteria, is to deal with them the same way they treated out hostagaes back in 1979. In this case, two wrongs do make a right. Blindfold them and take away there freedoms and see how they like western oppression far greater than they would have ever known otherwise. A person gives their life but once, don't let Iran's leadership not allow their own people life. Iran could barely get out of it's own way against Iraq in the late 80's. If they wish to play with the big guys, expect the big one!

[persianmight]

Why does CBS constantly use the word nukes in its headlines. Nukes is a colloquilly term for nuclear weapons which no one including the US believes Iran has. The term nuclear program is much more appropriate.