Comments on: Rice-Cheney Bash Rockefeller Comments

White House Refutes Senator's Claim That Saddam Was Not A Terror Threat

[bobgee_1999]

PART ONE:

I understand that even the shallow and ignorant have opinions, but if they're shallow and ignorant why would they voice them? Shhh! You're making yourself look silly. The biggest problem with right-wing radio isn't that they serve as a propaganda machine for an incompetent administration, it's that they empower stupid people with erroneous blather to spew around the water cooler and blogs.

#1) Sudan NEVER offered bin Laden to the U.S., and it wouldn't have mattered if they had, since he wasn't wanted at the time by any U.S. legal authority, never having committed a crime against the U.S. Even Sudan denies this offer was ever made.

#2) It might interest you to know, and you should certainly be aware, that Saddam never once ever made any threatening remarks against the United States.

#3) Before Saddam attacked Kuwait he was assured by U.S. Ambassador Glaspie, under Bush I, that the U.S. "has no opinion on Arab-Arab conflicts" and the U.S. State Department also made clear, "we do not have any security commitments to Kuwait." And why did Saddam attack Kuwait in the first place? Kuwait was illegally slant-drilling billions of dollars of Iraqi oil.

#4) Saddam killed Iranians? So what? Are we mad that he killed them before we could get around to it, or what?

[nothappyatall]

Instead, like a hurt child, we blindly lash out in anger and hit the nearest convienient target who couldn't fight back- Iraq was a pathetic nothing of a military force, they were laughable and our huge most powerful country in the world felt "threatened" by this craphole of a sandbar run by idiots.

[nothappyatall]

""The fact is, the world is better off today with Saddam Hussein out of power. Think where we'd be if he was still there.""

Yeah, were WOULD we be, let's see now... about 3,000 of our service people would still be ALIVE, untold thousands more would not be sitting home right now missing legs, arms, eyes or disfigured/incapacitated for life. We would not have squandered half a TRILLION dollars- this figure will double if not more when you add in replacing all the tanks asupplies, equipment worn out and destroyed, and life-long expensive medical care for amputees and their $50,000 artificial limbs that have to be replaced etc.

We wouldn't have the huge number of enemies we now do, nor would we have killed tens of thousands of innocents in Iraq (collateral damage) and we wouldn't have provoked the actions that WILL result in ANOTHER 9/11 in retaliation.

Had we investigated exactly WHO was behind the attacks (most were killed in them) and why, and then gone after those directly responsible- Bin Laden for example who has stated that he ordered the attacks and more importantly exactly WHY, then the whole situation would be different today.
Instead, "where we are" today is bogged down in a no end illegal war that so far cost half a TRILLION dollars, almost 3000 dead service personnel, the scorn of the world and making ourselves a target worse than before. Let's not forget our civil rights and other rights violations- illegal wiretapping, searches at airports and so much more.

[getcentered]

Condoleezza Rice. Hmmmmmm....about this comment:
"The notion that, somehow, someone who had caused more than a million deaths in the Iran-Iraq war, someone who had invaded Kuwait, ....... who had broken out of an embargo and was using his oil wealth to build up an arsenal of weapons, that this is not a threat, .... I just think it's very, frankly, odd analysis,"
RICE! Hear me out RICE!....millions die in war, especially one where the USA supplies TONS of weapons to BOTH sides. RICE! You don't really think that Saddam thought he could get away with attacking a neighboring country without having to go through another "Desert Storm"? I think you have let politics affect your intelligence. The more foolish analogies I hear from you the less I respect you. QUIT! Get out of there! Don't let your young progressive mind be tainted anymore by the cursory people you are forced to surround yourself with everyday. PLEASE!

[getcentered]

NICE ROCKEFELLER!! NICE!
Props to CBS for the quote you picked, that of V.P. Cheney:
"The fact is, the world is better off today with Saddam Hussein out of power. Think where we'd be if he was still there."
Questions for Cheney:
1. On your watch genocide was happening in Africa, and Osama bin Laden was getting away. Was your sending the US military to Iraq really to make the world a better place?
If so, then why did you pick Iraq when there were far more important regions of Earth that we could have made "better".
2. I have thought of where WE would be if Saddam were still in power.
Would thousands of US service men and women and many more thousands of civilians of Iraq, be alive today?
Would Saddam still be under the close watch of the UN and our various intelligence collecting offices?
Would HUNDREDS of BILLIONS of our tax dollars still available for use in our schools, police, Medicare, social security, roads, and research that could truly "better" our lives?

Shame on *** Cheney for his lack of imagination, his cursory performance as a leader and his willful ignorance when adapting policies that effect the lives of every American.

[newsjeff-2009]

If Rice and Cheney are upset with Rockefeller and Levins comment they need to only understand that many voters out their Republican and Democrat want Bin Laden brought to justice. They do not want to continue spending money and manpower for the Iraq war when Bin Laden is still at large. I think voters care more about that than watching an ABC series blaming Clinton for the 9/11 attacks, when he wasn't president. He had offically retired as of January 21st,2001. The past is not the issue, the future of America is, this isn't a sci-fi series man cannot go back in time through a time wrap.

[rharrin1]

AlQaeda was not in Iraq till bush and cheney took them there and where would we be without bush and cheney