Comments on: Dems Bash Rumsfeld's Nazi Comments

Defense Secretary Likened Iraq War Opponents To Those Who Appeased Hitler

[bob_bob2]

Germans in WW2 = massive super power with the will and material wealth to take over the planet. BTW, Hitler is a joke, Stalin was way worse (and an ally for a short time).

Terrorists = a bunch of guys with ak-47's, no hierarchy, no military, no blitzkrieg, no unity, and no leadership; hell they can barely keep us out of their own countries.

US = More guns, bombs, and money than the rest of the planet combined; shivering in terror over what?

We are at war against potential external threats; like a hypochondriac we are fighting things in reality that can never be defeated.

[abbe7]

Red1530 wrote: "The terrorists are fascist because they want to control all aspects of there people's lives like the government in Italy and Germany did before WWII."

Their people ? You must be referring to government terrorism then ... because nobody would really care about "Al Qaeda people". And I guess that by "to control all aspects of there people's lives" you mean "illegal wiretapping" ...

[red1530]

The terrorists are fascist because they want to control all aspects of there people's lives like the government in Italy and Germany did before WWII.

[abbe7]

A little quizz

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire

WTC = Reichstag;
Van der Lubbe = Usama bin Laden;
Comintern = Al Qaeda;
Enabling act = Patriot act;
Hitler = ?

[actnow101]

"We have found the enemy, and it is us."

It was the good citizens of Germany that failed to "confront Hitler" allowing the propaganda machine to consume them, and drive them to war and dispair. Let us show him that we have studied our history classes, and we have learned valuable lessons that will help us to confront the "new fascism". Of course it would have helped if the Germans had the internet so they could bypass government propaganda and have a free exchange of information. I think this speech of Rumsfeld's will go down in history. Is it possible to insert a larger video segment of his speech above, that may be very helpful for the American people to help identify these new fascists.

"There is nothing to fear, but fear itself"

[redrose54]

When will Americans learn the theory of cause and effect?

The reason Hitler came to power and the reason so many young Moslems are becoming radicalised are strikingly similar: Hitler rose to power through economic collapse in Germany following the Wall Street Crash; many young Moslems have been failed by the education system and are either not working or are in low-skill, low-wage jobs. Hitler came to power because the Germans felt that they had been humiliated by the 1919 Treaty of Versailles; young Moslems feel humiliated because they see their religion attacked by all sides, led by the US and Israel.

Until that link is learned by morons like Bush and Rumsfeld, then many more brave young soldiers from around the world will continue to lose their lives fighting a so-called "war on terror".

[docgalen]

Once upon a time there was a great president called Franklin D. Roosevelt. He was a very clever man who once said "There is nothing to fear, but fear itself." That statement should be said again! We are not going to be made living in fear because this administration wants us to!

[actnow101]

The Secretary of Defence is "warning" us that we are facing a "new type of fascism". He has never been more correct!

"I recount this history because once again we face similar challenges in efforts to confront the rising threat of a new type of fascism,... Can we truly afford to believe that somehow, some way, vicious extremists can be appeased?"

In an eerie twist of irony he seems to be discribing his own administration. Freedom of the press has been compromised, it is time for all good citizen's to take action against the oppressors before it is too late. Rumsfeld is right that there are terrorists out there somewhere, we just don't know who they are because he's not doing his job. Take back our country now before these mindless pawns start WWIII, and have us all living in fear. Don't let them burn the Constitution, it is our only hope.

"The pen is mighter than the sword"

[aliyaaali]

cont..

The US needs to be tough on terror. But constant war, and suport for war, killing of innocent civillians, constantly is not helping US PR. Foreign pollicy, causes outrage and gives momentum to terrorists. The war on Terror should be more than just killing, and invading nations and creating more terrorist, it should simultaniously be a diplomatic one.

Rumsfeld knows people are not buying the same story as they did after 9/11, he knows no matter how hard they try, it a battle to persuade the public that Hizbollah and Al-Qaeda are one and the same thing. He acted to stop sympathy for the other side that more and more people are beginning to sympathise with. Of course nobody sympathises with terrorists in the shape of Al-Qaeda, but its becoming increasingly difficult to justify every attack by using the word terrorst.

[aliyaaali]

To be put in a position where it is deemed appropriate to justify America's political position, is an act of despair. If severe doubts were not begining to surface about the moral conduct of this Administration, it would not be necessary. Clearly people are beginning to harbour a desire to hear the other side of the story, perhaps not so much here in the United States, but definately abroad. In light of the recent interview with Ahmadinejad, and what the world saw as an act of atrocity in Lebanon, going by the widespread anti-Israeli anti-US protests.

This is a call to rally support, a call to paper over the moral flaws in the conduct of the Administration, that has been at war for almost the entirity of its tenures. What we face, is a horrible terrorist threat, we face scum that want to kill us all, jew,christian,muslim,hindu regardless. Even the muslim Americans that live peacefully here are regarded as infidels. However that doesn't justify our conduct. Supporting the war in Lebanon severly damaged US reputation, Abu Ghuraib damages US reputation, 186%increase in oil exports from Iraq damages our reputation, rape claims damage US reputation, using napalm in Iraq damages US reputation.

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[tojuso]

It would seem that the latest Republican talking point contains the word "fascism", and it's inevitable that when talk turns to fasism, Hitler's name will be pulled from the ashes. Why? Simple: Hitler = Fear. Hitler was the ultimate bad guy of the 20th Century, and though he has become a metaphor lately, he's still good at serving up the fear. Clearly, fear itself has been the Republican's reliable campaign tool; it has delivered handsomely in past elections. To Republicans, Fear = Good. So, is it such a surprise -- now that we're close to another election -- that the Republicans are using it again?

[spinoza750]

We all know that the Bushites are fascist oriented. The thing is what are we the citizens going to do about them? Are we going to let the Republicates drag us from war to war? Are we going to fight back. At least one group is working to stop Bushite ideology . Please give some dollars to the world can't wait and get out in the streets and raise hell.

http://www.worldcantwait.net/

[walt1944]

I think Rumsfeld should be "retired" to a mental institution, or a nursing home for the feeble minded at best. The only person who supports this jerk is the even bigger jerk in the White House. For him to compare critics of the Iraq "mistake" as "facists" is a major insult to everyone in this country who supports our troops but not the "politicians" war they are fighting, dying, or coming back physically and/or mentally wounded for. Even his own generals think he is psychotic. If there is any comparing to Nazis here, lets call George Bush "Adolph" and Rumsfeld "Rudolph" as in HESS!

[one_american]

Wow. What Don Rumsfeld describes as "moral or intellectual confusion" is aptly demonstrated by the Bush-bashing anarchists here. No suprise.

Don Rumsfeld has performed far better and accomplished more real objectives than any other defense secretary in history, and will go down in history with honors.

Thank you, Don Rumsfeld!

[johnbrownjr1]

to tcsbliss.... I agree 110% that it is the men and women in our military who give us our right to free speech. Never in our history have so many generals and admirals spoke out against the policies of the Sec of Defense than during this war. If so many of our senior officers are against the course of action in Iraq it speaks volumes about how incompitent Herr Rumsfeld is in his job. I'm against this war....we are there so the oilmen and women can reap the profits...men like Bush, Cheney and lets not forget Condi and the oil tanker named after her. The people or our great nation need to be screaming impeachment.....or mobilizing for another revolution in our nation

[tcsbliss]

The "do gooders" in this country are against any thing except their own "pet projects". We have the freedom to speak out because of the men in uniform who are doing the right an just things to protect the fools who are home hiding behind safe walls.

[getcentered]

We should be used to this by now. These people are experts at MIS-information:
Bush, Gonzales, Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld, Rice. They are preachers of the "old world". They do not know how to listen to dissent. The opinions of others matter little when you KNOW you're right. The party they represent is just a rubber stamp due to various exploitive measures such as fund raising power and country wide talking point unification and propaganda.

If the left shows just a LITTLE bit of unification, I think they can win some elections and let DEBATE in Washington begin once again where the people in power unfortunately left it 6 years ago.

[alphaa10-2009]

And lest we forget-- Bush is a political pathology, invited by his extreme disregard for the rule of law. In November, 2005, safe in the Oval Office, Bush shouted down the few GOP faithful who still dared to complain to him about his open breach of American Constititonal protections, "Quit throwing the Constitution in my face. It's just a GD!@# piece of paper.")

This bozo is ... a leader? Not of the United States of America, certainly. But, yes, a ringleader.

[nynative1340]

Rumsfeld doesn't get it; never did; never will. Our fore-fathers deliberately established a government unlike any other before it. They deliberately allowed citizens to openly critize the government; that's one of the checks and balances. The problem is the present administration doesn't get it; never did; doesn't want to; and never will.

They have lied to us from day one and will continue to lie to us for as long as they exist.

[johnbrownjr1]

Once again Rumsfeld has shown the American People he does not believe in the basics of our constitution and our right of freedom of speech. Time and time again the American People have called for this murders resignation and his lackey in the white house has refused to honr the request. Talk about 21 century fascists...Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld definitely remind me of men like Hitler, Goring, and Himmler. Wake up America...we can still change the dangerous course these tyrants have put us on!