Comments on: Bush Stands By Wiretap Program

'Strongly Disagrees' With Judge's Ruling Against Warrantless Wiretaps

[alphaa10-2009]

People should read the court's commentary on the notion of subverting American rights and constitutional protections in order to defend them-- (or claim to). But that self-contradictory stance is exactly what isolates Bush and his supporters from well-grounded traditions of American constitutional law.

[joe_x-2009]

Hey Irish...the Democrats handed the keys to the government with a full tank of gas and the respect of the world. What the repugnants have done in just over 5.5 years is truly an amazing tragedy. The Cheney Administration has run our country off the road and into a tree. Unfortuately, we as Democrats are finding out what it's like to not be in power.."Why doesn't a Dumocrat come up with a solution instead of criticizing and crying about liberties and taxes being cut.?" if you knew anything--we do have many ideas and solutions...the republicans don't even give democrats a place to meet on Capitol Hill for the ideas/solutions to germinate and see the light of day--that is a true spirit of bipartisanship--but, dont worry when we regain control congress and get the supoena power we so sorely need since THIS "do nothing Congress" has abidicated all it's Constitutional authority of oversight to King ***. You will see the ideas and solutions florish and just maybe a "new morning in America" as Ron Reagan used to say!

[joe_x-2009]

Hey Irish...the Democrats handed the keys to the government with a full tank of gas and the respect of the world. What the repugnants have done in just over 5.5 years is truly an amazing tragedy. The Cheney Administration has run our country off the road and into a tree. Unfortuately, we as Democrats are finding out what it's like to not be in power.."Why doesn't a Dumocrat come up with a solution instead of criticizing and crying about liberties and taxes being cut.?" if you knew anything--we do have many ideas and solutions...the republicans don't even give democrats a place to meet on Capitol Hill for the ideas/solutions to germinate and see the light of day--that is a true spirit of bipartisanship--but, dont worry when we regain control congress and get the supoena power we so sorely need since THIS "do nothing Congress" has abidicated all it's Constitutional authority of oversight to King ***. You will see the ideas and solutions florish and just maybe a "new morning in America" as Ron Reagan used to say!

[searingtruth]

"In 1755 (Pennsylvania Assembly: Reply to the Governor, Tue, Nov 11, 1755), Franklin wrote: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
It was a different time, different war on the horizon, and a different King George they had a problem with."
W_Kanger


"Tyranny and tyrants do not change, nor does the character of those who defeat them."
SearingTruth

[duffyn]

Agree with Searingtruth last comment. We need to stay on topic. However one last thing from me. Just because someone is concerned about other's rights and is a liberal,Dem, whatever, does not mean that they would not be willing to go to war, should a just war or "taking out" become necessary. But Searingtruth has really nailed it - IMHO

[searingtruth]

Everyone should stay focused on the fact that America is now, literally, a fascist dictatorship. "President" Bush has claimed the right to violate any law, at any time, purely on his own authority, whenever he himself deems it necessary. And he has done so, with impunity.

Illegal wiretapping is just one of many crimes that Bush and his henchmen have clandestinely committed under the faux cover of "national security".



"Just six years ago we were one of the most respected and admired defenders of democracy and human rights in history. Respected not only by our friends, but even begrudgingly by most of our enemies. In fact, even the fantastic power of our military paled in comparison to the overwhelming might of our moral authority.

Today we are a nation that operates secret prisons occupied by anonymous inmates, illegally abducted and held indefinitely without charge or representation. We are guilty of torture. We are guilty of murder. We are guilty of preemptive war of conquest. We are guilty of the wholesale surveillance of our population, suppressing all hope of privacy and free dissent. And we are guilty of disgracing our nation through the abandonment of even our most basic precepts of morality.

If this is not evil, then nothing we have ever fought against is evil, and nothing we have ever fought for is good."

SearingTruth, A Future of the Brave

[w_kanger]

In 1755 (Pennsylvania Assembly: Reply to the Governor, Tue, Nov 11, 1755), Franklin wrote: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
It was a different time, different war on the horizon, and a different King George they had a problem with.

[onevote-2009]

Everyone should stay focused on the issue of warrentless surveillance. The judge's decision was that wiretaps without warrents is illegal and not supported by the constitution or the president's presumed authority. All Bush needs to do is use the warrent system that is in place to stay within the law. When you break the law, even in the best interest of a group of citizens, you've still broken the law.

[mmarsalek]

If I am to be killed by AlQaeda, then so be it.
Better that than to have all of our rights taken away and to live in a country that none of us recognize anymore.

[alphaa10-2009]

irishchamps8-- While you are so free with the label, "idiot", you might do well to remember your president is the idiot in this movie. Bush was widely considered for this signature role before entering office in 2001, but he has surpassed all expectations for his idiotic command performance. I would be careful about publicly admitting any GOP connections, just now.

[searingtruth]

"...maybe the next time we get hit like we got hit on 9-11, some of these bleeding heart liberals with no common sense will rethink thier beligerant stance against defesive actions like wire tapping terrorists communications ..."
pwrsim

Hmmm... What makes you think they're only wire tapping terrorists?

"When everything is secret, everything is legal."
SearingTruth

George Bush is a scum bag, war criminal, immoral,draft dodger, antichrist, dictator worst then any other the world has seen including Hitler, Stalin and Genghis Kahn.

The criminal George Bush must be impeached before he murders more innocents.

Remember the Saudis bombed the Trade Center not the Iraqis. Saddam was built up by Ronald Reagan, George bush, Rumsfeled and other evil Republicans.

Recall that CHIST was murdered by the same type of "leaders."

[searingtruth]

"So as expected I am now given the Searing Truth website...which shockingly has no facts and is filled with more of these witty zingers he throws around. Who could have guessed a group with nothing to say has a website devoted to the idea?"
S_Colbert

At the bottom - "This site is under construction Expected opening October 1, 2006"
At the side %u2013 Impatient enthusiasts can click Contact to request their own personal copy of AFOTB.


"Our enemies now proclaim that simple disagreement, or perceived inconvenience, justifies the destruction of our most sacred laws of liberty. In the cradle of Democracy, they still embrace only the rule of the single aberrant man."
SearingTruth

"We need not fear the beliefs of others, only their imposition upon us."
SearingTruth

[pwrslm]

maybe the next time we get hit like we got hit on 9-11, some of these bleeding heart liberals with no common sense will rethink thier beligerant stance against defesive actions like wire tapping terrorists communications

some feeble minded tree huggers may not think so, but Islam has declaired war on our way of life, and its beyond reason that a competent administration would not do everything to protect this nation while its at war, including wiretaps of international calls....

[alphaa10-2009]

Bush clearly has no understanding the laws of the United States and constitional protections. This is the bozo, remember, who in November, 2005, told assembled members of his own party-- nervous about public outrage over NSA spying-- "Stop throwing the Constitution in my face! It's just a GD*#! piece of paper."

And now, he wants to lecture us on his understanding of law and the Constitution. The United States never has had in the Oval office somebody whose record shows such ignorance and hostility to the rule of law, not to mention Constititional protections.

Lest we forget, Bush is the best friend of America's enemies-- his blunders and delusions are rich material for a thriving al Qaeda, whose operatives around the world have grown exponentially since Bush took office in 2001. Bush gave a green light to the Israeli trashing of Lebanon, at the precise moment things would not have been worse for the American profile abroad.

Bush tries to wrap himself in the flag, but conveniently forgets 911 occurred on his own watch, no one else's. Iraq was his own lie of massive proportions, no one else's. In full denial, Bush resorts like a broken robot to the only thing he knows-- to lie, and lie again.

So, tell us more about that "piece of paper"...

[irishchamps8]

You liberals kill me, do you really think the government has the time to monitor and track all American phone calls? There is not a single true fact out there that this is taking place. Name one... This was a media driven lie and something to sell newspapers (oh that's right, the New York Times is losing business) - go figure.

[irishchamps8]

oh by the way, thousands dead? What about abortion and the killing of innocent people in this country by the liberal left? Why is it you never mention that one big shot? Why hasn't America been attacked since 9/11? Dumocrats? I think not ***.

[long_rider]

I have no problem with phone calls of Al Qadea being monitored. I do however object to the wire tapping of Americans without a warrant. This is against one of our basic constitutional rights, Bush be damned. No one individual (president, vice president, or judge) has the right to suspend one of our basic freedoms, because it fits their needs.

Just like a president who swears an oath of office, and turns around and lies to congress and the American people. This administration as proven time-and-time again that it is not to be trusted. Why should we believe that he needs the power to wiretap with a warrant. The constitution (and its enforcement) is the only protection the American people have from this administration.

I just can't figure out why this president is still in office.

[irishchamps8]

wrong again idiot, not a conservative - an idependent. I'm tired of hearing the same old bull "Bush is doing this wrong, or this wrong, or this wrong." Why doesn't a Dumocrat come up with a solution instead of criticizing and crying about liberties and taxes being cut. You must be liberal without a job - right? Get yourself a job you idiot.

[searingtruth]

"The weak always surrender freedom, at the first opportunity."
SearingTruth

"I at once understood everything and nothing at all. A victory, accompanied by defeat. A war, with no prisoners. A threat, with no substance. A fear, with no end. A sorrow, with no comfort. And a land, with no freedom."
SearingTruth