Comments on: Pentagon Was Warned Over Detainee's Sanity

Pentagon Ordered Officers To Treat Terror Detainees On U.S. Soil Same As Gitmo Prisoners

[phydeux2]

Ok. WWI, WWII in the Japanese theater, the Korean War, and the US Civil War. If you look beyond the bloodshed you''ll see that the actual armistice treaty of each war was shaped around respect and understanding. It just took the bloodshed to force the stubborn leaders to the table to hash it out.

[libluv2cnsor]

How are they Guilty? they never had charges or a trial. These documents prove that these people were subject to cruel and unusal punishment, had thier constiutional rights violated by the one person who took and oath to protect the constitution (george W.)and to this day have kept it secret. This could happen to you and is totally illegal. Impeach and try all involved.


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Posted by impeach__w at 02:24 PM : Oct 08, 2008
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they are detainees...they are prisoner of war..they are not american citizens..

let me ask you this..if they are innocent..do you want them relocated next door from your house??

[libluv2cnsor]

One thing that stops wars is Respect and understanding.



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Posted by ToolMangler at 12:55 PM : Oct 08, 2008
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REALLY???? brings back the same question..name one war that was ended by ''respect and understanding''.

[libluv2cnsor]

For those that might be interested it seems that the KGB (King Georges Bullys) is alive and well in the good ol'''' USA. If ever a President deserved to spend time in Leavenworth as an inmate, this one does.


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Posted by ToolMangler at 12:45 PM : Oct 08, 2008
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well what happened to the "we will impeach bush" promised by nancy pelosi???? should we expect any different from obama?? SAME PARTY

[libluv2cnsor]

How is the WMD search going remember the reason for going to this war. Just another lie and they just can''''t admit they were wrong. Hey here is a suggestion enlist support the troops let some real good people come home.


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Posted by antoniof123 at 12:25 PM : Oct 08, 2008
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AHH the infamous ''where are the wmd'' question.

well let me freshen up where it left off...

that battlecry was abandoned AS SOON AS it was discovered that the entity (the UNITED NATIONS) incharge of finding these wmd were skimming money from saddam..you know ''food for oil'' scandal..then the whole ''UN peacekeeping zones'' used as battery zones for terrorists.."the human shield'' incidents..

I dont know...what do you think..

pretty much opens a lot of if''s on that..

[differnet]

I know this will go over the head of most people. But this isn''t about THEIR guilt or innocense. This is about OUR guilt or innocence. One of the things that I love about America and the thing that inspired me enought that I joined the US Army during Desert Shield, was that we were always the country who tried to do the right thing. Yes, we often failed, but we were always trying. We didn''t try to garner the adulation of the rest of the world, but because it was the right thing to do. When we screwed up, we tried to make things right. At least, we tried.

Okay, things haven''t gone well for us this last decade or so, but we can''t give up on what we have always been - the one country who tried to do what is right. We got sidetracked, but let''s get back on the road. We can do better. We can do better by not only these guys, but by ourselves and our children. When we become corrupt and when committ evil in the name of safety, then we are no better than the old Soviet Union. But we are better. I truly hope that we have learned something over these last 8 years. We too have a capacity for evil. However, we also have the choice to turn back from that capacity and do what is right.

[libluv2cnsor]

oh lord!! lets spend an extra 1 billion dollars to make them happy..I AM SURE WE CAN AFFORD IT..OBAMA JUST NEED TO RAISE THOSE TAXES..

[eric-914]

Why do we care again?

[impeach__w]

How are they Guilty? they never had charges or a trial. These documents prove that these people were subject to cruel and unusal punishment, had thier constiutional rights violated by the one person who took and oath to protect the constitution (george W.)and to this day have kept it secret. This could happen to you and is totally illegal. Impeach and try all involved.

[phydeux2]

I agree Proisrael. If they''re guilty then they should be punished (I''m not getting to the "how" of it though). The problem is, many of those detained were brought in under suspicions that may or may not have been founded on factual activities. And since we''ll never be allowed to know what evidence they do or don''t have against these people, its unlikely justice will ever be served, for them or for us.

I''m willing to bet the majority of those detained never actually took part in any terrorist activities and since they don''t have any proof with which to convict them, they''re stuck with people who they can''t release for fear they''ll expose the truth, but whom they have no legitimate reason to keep locked up. This whole thing has been such an embarrassment to the Bush Administration that if they admitted now that they were wrong they''d be sued and impeached (for what little good it would do3

[toolmangler-2009]

The only way wars are won is by Fear.. Your enemy has to fear you before they will give up the fight..
Posted by FREEDOMBIKER at 10:51 AM : Oct 08, 2008



The only thing fear ever got was ''hatred''. If your enemy hates you worse than the fear of dying then you get suicide bombers and would be martyrs. (sound familiar?) One thing that stops wars is Respect and understanding.

[toolmangler-2009]

For those that might be interested it seems that the KGB (King Georges Bullys) is alive and well in the good ol'' USA. If ever a President deserved to spend time in Leavenworth as an inmate, this one does.

[antoniof123]

People like Nancy.. who think wars are won with flowers and not bullets needs to go to Iraq or Afghan and take a bunch of flowers.. (you only need to buy a one way ticket.. Bank on that Nancy)
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Posted by FREEDOMBIKER at 10:51 AM : Oct 08, 2008

Absolutely.

Posted by proisrael at 11:58 AM : Oct 08, 2008

Here is the trump card for both of these statments.

How is the WMD search going remember the reason for going to this war. Just another lie and they just can''t admit they were wrong. Hey here is a suggestion enlist support the troops let some real good people come home.

[runningralph]

Who cares about the detainees'' sanity? I don''t. Do you? I wrote wrote a paper for a college psych course about Chinese brainwashing techniques (Russians weren''t as sophisticated) in the Korean War). The bottom line is that if the captors have total control they can make you believe anything and do anything. However when the brainwashed victim gets away from that control the brainwashing evaporates like water on a hot surface.

[chris32324]

i d be willing to wager that after bush has settled back in crawford and he has time to look back at some of his dirty work,he ll do the right thing and blow his brains out,at least i hope he does.

[phydeux2]

To Proisrael, I honestly don''t know what to do with them. Its certainly too late to try a peaceful dialogue with them, but nor do we have the right to detain them indefinitely. Perhaps we just send them back to the country of their choice that will accept them and be done with it, but with the warning that if they''re captured doing terrorist activities they''ll be executed.

[phydeux2]

Wow Swwils, you sound a lot like those Islamic extremists.

They call us filthy Americans, you call them goat herders.
You accuse them of abusing their women, they accuse us of allowing our women to be immodest and whorish.
You want them destroyed, they want us destroyed.

So what gives us the right to torture and mistreat our captives from their side, yet turn right around and demand treat our people in captivity with kid gloves? A bit of hypocrisy there I think.

[swwils]

I don''t want too hear the whinning about the terrorist detainees.They should have had ALLah zap them to freedom.When they were all sitting around abusing their women,and deciding how to destroy all westerers they should have figured we ain''t so dumb after all.Watch and see who ends up with the oil,sure ain''t going to be a bunch of goat herder''s.

[phydeux2]

That''s right Nancy, however, if you look at the legislation passed in the last couple years you''ll see that gas prices, food prices, and taxes have increased dramatically as the Democrats came to power in Congress. There needs to be a balance between the parties, if Obama wins then all sides will be Democrat controlled and you''ll have no way to blame Republicans for the ills that befall the US.

[phydeux2]

To proisrael, if we stoop to the level of treating terrorists the way they treat us, then we''re no better than they are. It is our very system of laws, decency, and equality that make us the more civilized and morally enriched people.

When you start to exact revenge in bloodshed then you''re no better than what you''re fighting against. After all, they think they''re doing this as vengance against Western society for not living by THEIR cultural and religious beliefs.

Civil rights, equality, morality, and due process mean nothing if they can simply be set aside for the sake of expedient bloodlust just because something outrages us.