Comments on: U.S. Hits Pakistan Again, Tension Mounts

At Least 12 Reported Killed; Diplomats Warn Rift Between Washington, Islamabad Dangerous

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by lovegetpeace September 12, 2008 8:13 PM EDT
Bush is Provoking Pakistan with these unilateral raids. Bush provoked Russia with plans to place missile-defense systems in Eastern Europe.
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by missingamerica September 12, 2008 7:44 PM EDT
Seems very peculiar that this pressure on Pakistan is starting up now....weeks before the election.

Posted by CultureChang at 04:38 PM : Sep 12, 2008

It is not peculiar to me at all.

If you have read the PNAC documents, then you know that one of their goals is the permanent stationing of large numbers of American forces in Southwest Asia.

Further, a large portion of PNAC''s membership - to include Cheney, some Bush''s, etc - have intimate ties with Big Oil, and Big Oil benefits greatly from instability in the oil-supplying regions of the globe as it allows them to keep their profit margins fluid and increase profits by anticipating oil price increases and slowing their reaction to oil price decreases.

So I in fact anticipated increased instability generated from Washington towards the end of Bush''s term - peace is the last thing that PNAC wants.

Additionally, global turmoil gives the Republican candidates an advantage because the Republican propaganda machine has successfully tricked far too many Americans into believing that Republicans are better at handling war - even when all historical evidence contradicts that fairy tale.

The only question that I have - because I believe that it is a real possibility - is will Bush light the fuse under Russia via Georgia in order to take a preemptive approach to our upcoming elections?
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by questionnews September 12, 2008 7:41 PM EDT
Yes, it sounds exactly like what the chickenhawks who make war for profit have rammed down America''''s throat.

All I am advocating is that we use their tools against the chickenhawks.

Karma, if you will.

Posted by ibsteve2u at 04:37 PM : Sep 12, 2008

Well. I don''t think you are going to like Obama because he said he plans to hit the Pakistan area pretty hard. Code---War in & around Pakistan.
Obama-Chickenhawk??
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by ajmarine111 September 12, 2008 7:40 PM EDT
Seems very peculiar that this pressure on Pakistan is starting up now....weeks before the election.

Posted by CultureChang at 04:38 PM : Sep 12, 2008


I''ve heard, for the past four years, that we have had OBL locked up somewhere and were going to produce him right before the elections.

This could be the cover to say they captured him now?
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by culturechang September 12, 2008 7:38 PM EDT
Seems very peculiar that this pressure on Pakistan is starting up now....weeks before the election.
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by missingamerica September 12, 2008 7:37 PM EDT
sound familiar?

Posted by bobnjersey at 04:34 PM : Sep 12, 2008

Yes, it sounds exactly like what the chickenhawks who make war for profit have rammed down America''s throat.

All I am advocating is that we use their tools against the chickenhawks.

Karma, if you will.
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by ajmarine111 September 12, 2008 7:35 PM EDT
Posted by AJMarine111 at 04:29 PM : Sep 12, 2008

Unfortunately, yes it is.

But I am almighty tired of chickenhawks who sit at home encouraging war and then creating an economic situation where good Americans perceive no other way out other than to enlist and serve as cannonfodder for chickenhawks.

It is about time the chickenhawks put their mouths - and their bodies - on the line.


Posted by ibsteve2u at 04:32 PM : Sep 12, 2008



ibsteve, I know where you are coming from.

It''s just that it is Friday and I wanted to lighten things up a little.
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by bobnjersey September 12, 2008 7:34 PM EDT
[Isn''''t that illegal?]
[Posted by AJMarine111 at 04:29 PM : Sep 12, 2008]

does that matter anymore?

just get the attorney general to have an assessment made and deem it appropriate in the name of national security. then provide immunity to anyone who enabled the policy and helped implement it. strongarm congress to then pass a bill to formally approve of it.

sound familiar?
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by scottyusa September 12, 2008 7:33 PM EDT
Pakistan is the terrorists last refuge. The U.S. is doing what needs to be done. We are tired of Pakistan taking and plundering our money and supplying us with empty promises. We probably have the blessings of the government but they need to loudly protest. That''s how world politics works. Just like erope''s protest over Russia''s invasion of Georgia. There is a lot of loud lip service but Europe is nit going to actually do something. They buy their oil from Russia.
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by missingamerica September 12, 2008 7:32 PM EDT
And in the middle of the night tonight, their doors would be kicked down

Posted by ibsteve2u at 04:25 PM : Sep 12, 2008

Isn''t that illegal?

Posted by AJMarine111 at 04:29 PM : Sep 12, 2008

Unfortunately, yes it is.

But I am almighty tired of chickenhawks who sit at home encouraging war and then creating an economic situation where good Americans perceive no other way out other than to enlist and serve as cannonfodder for chickenhawks.

It is about time the chickenhawks put their mouths - and their bodies - on the line.
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by culturechang September 12, 2008 7:32 PM EDT
"Isn''''t that illegal?"

Not anymore. Not after the Bush Court ruled in favor of No-Knock searches and allowed evidence from illegal searches to be used in prosecution.
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by culturechang September 12, 2008 7:31 PM EDT
Questionnews, good point. But the operators are still in jail after 15 months. Perhaps they patronized the night before....with some oil company lobbyist.
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by questionnews September 12, 2008 7:31 PM EDT
Good thing I am not President.

If I were, I would get ahold of the IP addies of the oh-so-courageous keyboard warriors who practice intellectual masturbation by calling the people they perceive to be "liberals" any name they think CBS will let them get away.

And in the middle of the night tonight, their doors would be kicked down and they would be at Paris Island by morning and on the front lines in nine weeks.

Posted by ibsteve2u at 04:25 PM : Sep 12, 2008

Hey! You stole that idea from Hitler. I''m sure there''s some sort of copywrite infringment here.
Although, somewhere in he!! Hitler is looking up at you going "That''s my boy!!!"
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by ajmarine111 September 12, 2008 7:29 PM EDT
And in the middle of the night tonight, their doors would be kicked down

Posted by ibsteve2u at 04:25 PM : Sep 12, 2008



Isn''t that illegal?
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by culturechang September 12, 2008 7:28 PM EDT
ibsteve2u, it is a good think your not President. we have too much of that behavior already.
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by missingamerica September 12, 2008 7:25 PM EDT
Good thing I am not President.

If I were, I would get ahold of the IP addies of the oh-so-courageous keyboard warriors who practice intellectual masturbation by calling the people they perceive to be "liberals" any name they think CBS will let them get away.

And in the middle of the night tonight, their doors would be kicked down and they would be at Paris Island by morning and on the front lines in nine weeks.
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by questionnews September 12, 2008 7:21 PM EDT
They are trying to get Bin Laden before the election so that poeple will vote Republican. Bush has to finish the job. Nevermind they ignored him for 5 years while the FBI was raiding massage parlors.

Posted by CultureChang at 04:19 PM : Sep 12, 2008

Are you sure it was a raid? Maybe FBI agents are just really enthusiastic customers?
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by culturechang September 12, 2008 7:19 PM EDT
They are trying to get Bin Laden before the election so that poeple will vote Republican. Bush has to finish the job. Nevermind they ignored him for 5 years while the FBI was raiding massage parlors.
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by bobnjersey September 12, 2008 7:19 PM EDT
[I want them to react in a furious rage blinded by the visions of burned bodies on the streets of an American city and bomb any person or persons or foreign government that ever did, does, or we suspect ever will coordinate a terrorist attack.]
[Posted by endpcnow at 10:25 AM : Sep 12, 2008]

couldn''t that be any country in the world ... even canada?
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by peyton3000 September 12, 2008 6:59 PM EDT
azure11,

sorry cumburper
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