Comments on: Qaeda No. 2: U.S. Hiding Failures In Iraq

In A New Video, Ayman al-Zawahiri Warns The Mujahedeen There Are Strengthening

[underdogus]

I don''''t agree with your analysis but I''''ll play along; if it''''s 1938 again Posted by realpatriot1 at 05:15 AM : Dec 18, 2007
yes realpatriot everything is all right let them have the BOMB, its ok Ahmadinejad wont use it (even though he said so!) have some milk and cookies and go to bed EVERYTHING will be alright.....

[realpatriot1]

underdogus,

I don''t agree with your analysis but I''ll play along; if it''s 1938 again we''re the Nazis because we''re the ones occupying another country. That has a great deal to do with why China is turning our ships away and Russia is sending nuclear fuel to next door Iran.

We''ve thumbed our nose at the world and the world is returning the favor.

The White House policy of preemptive war and occupation is the reason why we''re in serious trouble and it''s only going to get worse until we repudiate this un-American policy and the related un-American policies like torture that go with it.

The world is watching and they don''t like what they see.

[realpatriot1]

feelfree,

You base your conjecture on what you feel even when the facts are clear that those feelings are wrong. The basis of your premise is that everything which happens in Iraq relates somehow to ulterior motives on the part of the U.S. and that no one else has nay ulterior motives. Even if your premise is true it''s by accident because the thought process leading you to that conclusion is wrong.

Al Quaeda has its own motives in Iraq. They want to win the battle for the hearts and minds of the Sunnis.
When the U.S. first occupied Iraq they were winning that battle.

They overplayed their hand by bombing the Golden Temple; this led to civil war and dissension in the short run but is blowing up in their face now in the long run because most Sunnis now realize that Al Quaeda doesn''t give a rat''s *** about them.

al-Zawari realizes they''ve handed the Americans a victory by default in the battle for the hearts and minds of Iraqis and is desparately trying to pull the genie back out of the bottle.

If you would take a critical look at all motives in Iraq and not just American motives you would see that.

[feelfree1]

realpatriot1,

Re: "What benefit would our government obtain from al-Zawari''s attacks on Iran..."

Iran? Could you elaborate?

Re: "...or his call for Sunnis to support Al Quaeda against the United States?"

As I have explained previously, "al-Qaeda-in-Iraq" appears to me to be overwhelmingly a made up ruse, as is alluded to in this very article, which cites "the Islamic State of Iraq", rather than "al-Qaeda-in-Iraq", as being associated with "Zawahiri", in Iraq.

The U.S.-led forces have every interest in creating an imaginary enemy for Iraqis to chase, because if the Iraqis are busy chasing ghosts, they have less time to blow up Americans.

[underdogus]

2008: prepare for WWIII......its 1938....

[realpatriot1]

There are two separate highly illogical rants on here and I can''t choose which is the more brainless.

On one hand we have feelfree who thinks that he''s presented a rational argument for determining that this article is a propaganda hoax from the U.S. government.

For the sake of argument, let''s assume that karl Rove has decided to release a fake video to cause "dissension among the Iraqi people". What benefit would our government obtain from al-Zawari''s attacks on Iran or his call for Sunnis to support Al Quaeda against the United States? This is classic al-Zawari, the man has been fighting against middle east peace since he helped assassinate Sadat, before Al Quaeda existed and while Bin Laden was still on the CIA payroll.

On the other hand we have speakinup saying that Bush was using bad intelligence when he claimed evidence of WMD in Iraq. I can''t possibly offer all the evidence that this is not true in 1500 words, but let''s start with the CIA taking the claims out of his Cincinnati speech and White House aides putting it back into the State of the Union 4 monthes after the intelligence community had thrown cold water on the claim.

The tape is real and Bush lied about WMD; the truth is right under your noses boys.

[underdogus]

there you have it folks we are in serious trouble and it will only get worst!!!

[underdogus]

14 US soldiers killed in IRAQ so far this month.....

[underdogus]

CHINA tells more US vessels to KEEP OUT!!

[underdogus]

RUSSIA delivers nuclear fuel to IRAN: CNN reports