Comments on: U.S.: No Overt Threats In Osama Video

Security Official Tells CBS News Tape Has Recent References; Initial Analysis Suggests Speaker Is Bin Laden

[feelfree1]

Here is an Osama video that is far more convicing and interesting than the fake video that was just released:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlTKSZlYpNM

[lars008-2009]

We must all hang together, or assuredly we shall all hang separately. Ben Franklin

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. Ben Franklin

We make war that we may live in peace. Aristotle

It is an unfortunate fact that we can secure peace only by preparing for war. John F. Kennedy

There''s a graveyard in northern France where all the dead boys from D-Day are buried. The white crosses reach from one horizon to the other. I remember looking it over and thinking it was a forest of graves. But the rows were like this, dizzying, diagonal, perfectly straight, so after all it wasn''t a forest but an orchard of graves. Nothing to do with nature, unless you count human nature. Barbara Kingsolver

They have not wanted Peace at all; they have wanted to be spared war -- as though the absence of war was the same as peace. Dorothy Thompson

There is nothing so likely to produce peace as to be well prepared to meet the enemy. George Washington

I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. My sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history, naval architecture, navigation, commerce and agriculture in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry, and porcelain. John Adams

[gaye5]

Good point nyckate ...

Getting rid of a few Muslim leaders doesn''t change what is in their holy books eh..
Slaughter all who will not submit in all the world..... As Mohammad said that it is not fitting for a prophet to take captives before he had made a great slaughter in the land, why would his followers think or do any differently..

Some authorities think that at least one percent of Muslims are terrorists, which equates to 12 million terrorists, but the thinking is that there is really up to 20 or 30 percent, and with the lack of outrage from Muslims, I would not be surprised if it is more.. we never hear of any Muslim clerics, Imams or leaders being sent to trial or jail for their teaching of hatred, terrorism and violence, nor do we hear any outrage from Muslims at this terrorist teaching, do we???, there can only be one reason and that is that all Muslims must agree with the terrorism...
It would appear that there is a lack of intellect amongst young Muslims, as they don''t seem to wonder why it is only the very young (who are of course more easily influenced) who are going out and committing terrorist attacks for their god..We NEVER see a Muslim leader or their children doing terrorist attacks either..only the young...

[seven-pesos]

white trash, southern, redneck & reborn...

bush''s kind of people.

ignorant, uneducated slave state christian south.

only good for dumping your garbage...

ha,ha,ha.

that''s the south for you, folks!

[seven-pesos]

bush wouldn''t make a yellow pimple on osama bin laden''s hairy azz.

osama is twice the man that snake, bush, is.

20 years from now american teenagers will be wearing ''osama'' tee shirts...

while bush will be remembered as an incompetent, faith professing ( "gawd made me do it" ) redneck piece of war making dixie trash.

ha,ha,ha.

don''t like it? come see me!

war, hate, phony christian creeps...

nothing good comes out of the south!

[jsilver2th]

Posted by roger_inkart: "I dunno...it looks....fake. Even if it''''s a dyed beard, it looks way too close to the 2004 vid. Unless the guy found the fountain of youth he seems to be younger. How can that be?"

Gee do you think I guy that on the run hunted by the most powerful nation in the history of the world might wear what they call a DISGUISE?

What difference does it make if the threat is implicit or implied?

I hope our new President Clinton catches up with this guy and cleans his clock.

[gaye5]

ToolMangler, the left wing tried to do the same when they were in government in Australia, and according to a ALP report that I read, we were to become part of the Asian basin, importing thousands of non Christian Asians to make this so, which evidently would help to destroy Christianity in the country..

Our right winged government slowed it down when they got into government 12 years ago, but when the left comes in again it will be on for young and old..
One left winged MP said very angrily to me 13 years ago when I asked him why they were importing food and goods that we make and grow here, that I would just have to except that we are part of the Asian basin and that we will be Asian and that they have to bring about a level playing field and that is that..
I gather that the powers to be want the world divided up into three parts..anyone else have any light on this???

[lars008-2009]

It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again; because there is not effort without error and shortcomings; but who does actually strive to do the deed; who knows the great enthusiasm, the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause, who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement and who at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly. So that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat. Theodore Roosevelt

Criticism is necessary and useful; it is often indispensable; but it can never take the place of action, or be even a poor substitute for it. The function of the mere critic is of very subordinate usefulness. It is the doer of deeds who actually counts in the battle for life, and not the man who looks on and says how the fight ought to be fought, without himself sharing the stress and the danger. (1894) Theodore Roosevelt

To sit home, read one''s favorite paper, and scoff at the misdeeds of the men who do things is easy, but it is markedly ineffective. It is what evil men count upon the good men''s doing. - The Outlook December 21, 1895 Theodore Roosevelt

[nyckate]

joeham75 - obviously we the sane world are plagued by delusional insane effers .. Osama things we should convert to his radical islam, Bush thought he could chanve 13 centuries of brutal tribal warfare by getting rid of the most non-sectarian leader saddam -- sheer insanity.

[toolmangler-2009]

Still looking into that one, radiob. well its my beddy_bye time, Ya''ll be good.

[nyckate]

Is Bush trying to make us think that Osama is not a threat to us??

Or is it that he doesn''t want us to recognize that we would know that he hadn''t caught or stopped Osama yet???

Bush = The Great Deceiver

[joeham75]

This guy is one arrogant man...if more then 500 years of persecution couldn''t get the Protestants to recant the name of Jesus what makes him think a couple a scarey videos will do the trick? Look here Mr. Bin Laden my ancestors were burned at the stake and tortured to death...oh and the Apostle Paul...Yea he was beheaded. Christians invented the idea behind martrydom...and we defined it in the 1500''s...if you wanna know what we are made of...keep pushing...your gonna wake up a sleeping giant you can''t handle.

[radiob-2009]

Tool

Who was the "ghostwriter" of the transcript? Sure sounds familiar.

[toolmangler-2009]

What I find amazing is that not one person on these pages was fooled by Bushy_baby from the very ''get/go'', we all have seen through this farce from the beginning. Some of us even get totally tripped out if accused of being a Closet Bushy_baby supporter. I just finished reading OBLs purported statement and then come here and see the hate and division that OBL had just talked about being spewed into the media for the whole World to revel in. Yes! America is hated by some, envied by most and watched by all. Every eye and ear is tuned to the USA one way or the other. The world also reads the same comments I read and they saw OBL spit in out face. Now they are standing back and watching. This war will end, we will ...............do what? Bushy_baby got us into this ''with'' our permission, ok folks, NOW WHAT???? We have to get out of there, NOW!!!
We have to also handle the situation at home. Oh! in case you haven''t noticed, that is another reason the world is watching us, they know that the war was and is just a distraction ploy by the establishment to keep us busy hating OBL and others while the USA, Canada, Mexico, and all points south become (hopefully to bushy) one giant nation. I don''t care to learn spanish at my age and certainly don''t care for turf graffiti being painted on my property. If you feel the same way lets cool it with the vitroilic commentary and ''discuss'' alternatives.

[roger_inkart]

I dunno...it looks....fake. Even if it''s a dyed beard, it looks way too close to the 2004 vid. Unless the guy found the fountain of youth he seems to be younger. How can that be?

[gaye5]

Second part of the article...

Gaubatz appealed to Congress to investigate his claims. But neither political party wishes to touch the issue for different reasons. The Democrats do not want the public to know that President Bush%u2019s stated reason for invading Iraq might be justified. The Republicans do not want Americans to know that the administration''s military command failed to stop what may have been the biggest WMD transfer of all time.

Notice that the article said that

But the mainstream media have chosen not to inform readers and viewers of the credible reports of WMDs discovered in Iraq. WHY????

[gaye5]

Issue Date: www.insightmag.com - June 4-11, 2007, Posted On: 6/4/2007

U.S. agent says Iraqis led him to Saddam''s WMD
By William Hargrave.
This claim comes from Dave Gaubatz, who served for 12 years as an agent in the U.S. Air Force%u2019s Office of Special Investigations. He says he was "hand-picked" to locate weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Between March and July 2003, he identified several of Saddam Hussein%u2019s WMD sites in the immediate aftermath of the Iraq invasion. Huge caches were located.

Some of this information has been published by The Spectator (London), The New York Sun, and other U.S. newspapers and Internet news sites. But the mainstream media have chosen not to inform readers and viewers of the credible reports of WMDs discovered in Iraq.

According to these reports, Saddam%u2019s WMDs were apparently smuggled to Syria, Iran and other destinations under the nose of American forces. The political fallout that would occur from investigation and affirmation of this extremely serious American operational failure with its profound military and geo-strategic implications has apparently helped to keep a lid on this information%u2014until now.

[pakaal]

"U.S.: No Overt Threats In Osama Video"

Well, this does fit with Bush''s statement way back in 2002 that he''s "really not that concerned about him", and with the Bush Administration closing down the taskforce assigned to hunt for him back in 2005. My question is how is it the "mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks" that killed 3,000 people isn''t considered an overt threat merely by still being alive? (Yeah, yeah, IF he''s still alive.)

[gaye5]

donnie900, do you think that if they were out dated that Iraq would have bothered spend so much money in sending them off Iraqi land..

This is part of a an article by WorldTribune.com

SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM
Friday, June 11, 2004

The United Nations has determined that Saddam Hussein shipped weapons of mass destruction components as well as medium-range ballistic missiles before, during and after the U.S.-led war against Iraq in 2003.

The UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission briefed the Security Council on new findings that could help trace the whereabouts of Saddam''s missile and WMD program.



The briefing contained satellite photographs that demonstrated the speed with which Saddam dismantled his missile and WMD sites before and during the war. Council members were shown photographs of a ballistic missile site outside Baghdad in May 2003, and then saw a satellite image of the same location in February 2004, in which facilities had disappeared.
"The removal of these materials from Iraq raises concerns with regard to proliferation risks," Perricos told the council. Perricos also reported that inspectors found Iraqi WMD and missile components shipped abroad that still contained UN inspection tags.

He said the Iraqi facilities were dismantled and sent both to Europe and around the Middle East. at the rate of about 1,000 tons of metal a month. Destionations included Jordan, the Netherlands and Turkey.

[hologram5]

Look at the guy on the right. His left eye looks like a botched plastic surgery job. I highly doubt that this is Osama. The man on the right looks much younger and much healthier than the man on the left.