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Frances Townsend Says U.S. Has "Constrained" Al Qaeda; Pakistan Calls Report Unsubstantiated

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by dodaz-2009 July 19, 2007 12:42 PM EDT
Make up your MIND already ! "they are getting Stronger,...they could attack any day"... or is it "We Constrained their ability to attack us".??..it's really retarded...these talking points...do they think no one is paying attention??...geeeeeeeeeeez LOL
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by realpatriot1 July 19, 2007 12:24 PM EDT
I was glad to hear the administration for the first time that I'm aware of leave the option of attacking Al Kookda(good one navyretired2!) in Pakastan.

While we continue to wring our hands over a fatally flawed mission in Iraq, Al Kookda is being reborn in the tribal areas of eastern Afghanistan & western Pakastan.

I realize we are concerned that if Mushariff falls the nukes go with him. That genie is out of the bottle anyways, Professor Khan has transferred the technology to Iran and North Korea already. If we allow ourselves to be blackmailed by their nukes while Al Quaeda continues to gain strength and political influence in the country they will eventually have the nukes anyways and we will have to take them out. Better to take out the Al Kookda infrastruture now and show our resolve.

Al Quaeda does their best work when we don't know where they are, but they can't really take us on without large bases of operation.

Our goals in the middle east should not be to attempt shoving American-style democracy down their throats or otherwise occupying territory.
Our goals should be to take out our attackers and pursue a just Israeli-Palestinian peace.
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by hungry1968 July 19, 2007 12:07 PM EDT
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And we can't leave until these people stand up for themselves?!? We'll be there forever!

Once Bush decided to walk away from Afghanistan, that was pretty much the end of the fight against terrorism. I'm not saying that we could have 100%, for sure, no doubt eliminate al Qaeda in Afghanistan. But, if we would have taken just 10% of the time, effort, and money wasted in Iraq, and applied it to the actual, legitimate war on terror, al Qaeda might have been eliminated, and OBL caught or killed. Now they've been allowed to run into Pakistan, regroup, and grow in strength.

I really don't know what the solutions are to these problems. Iraq is so far gone, there is no hope left for a good outcome. The war on terror is virtually lost, because Bush just walked away from it.
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by hungry1968 July 19, 2007 11:58 AM EDT
We need a winning policy against terrorism. The problem is that Bush's policies are counterproductive and he won't listen to anyone with a winning strategy.
Posted by formrusmcsgt at 07:57 AM : Jul 19, 2007


I'm with you, but we're tied up in Iraq with no way out. There is no winning strategy to listen to - only "what is the best worst case scenario". Katrina pales in comparison with the disaster that Bush has created. The only way out, is to pull out and let the disaster evolve itself into a bigger disaster. Obviously, not a good outcome.

I work with a friend of mine, who's a sergeant in the reserves. He was in Ramadi for 18 months, and you should here some of the horror stories. One for example:
He's making rounds around 10 PM at night, checking on the various outposts. He comes up to an outpost with no one in it. A 60 cal machine gun, two boxes of rounds, a radio, and binoculars were just sitting there, but no guards. ?? He has the post manned, and the next day he looks into it - the Iraqi soldiers guarding the post, "shift had ended" so they went home. You obviously know about not leaving your post, unless you're properly relieved? That doesn't exist in Iraq.
The really sad part? He said this was a good outcome!! A lot of times the weapons come up missing, (read as stolen - possibly by the enemy), or the guards just up and quit their jobs with the military and take the weapons with them, or they defect with the weapons and become the enemy with fresh weapons.
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by bluestardad July 19, 2007 11:02 AM EDT
BAGHDAD BOBS LITTLE SISTER ON STAGE!
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by formrusmcsgt July 19, 2007 10:57 AM EDT
The efficacy of the Bush doctrine in fighting terrorism is not measured in sending coiffed spokespersons to tell us it's going in the right direction.

The efficacy is judged in an overall reduction in terrorism. Such a reduction has not occurred, so the doctrine is obviousy ineffective, regardless of what Bush and his spokepersons contend.

We need a winning policy against terrorism. The problem is that Bush's policies are counterproductive and he won't listen to anyone with a winning strategy.
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by navyretired2 July 19, 2007 10:50 AM EDT
And FeelFree, for every 9/11 conspiracy video out there, there's video and documents from other credible sources that discount them. I'm sure with your web-savvy skills you could find some if you really cared to.
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by navyretired2 July 19, 2007 10:44 AM EDT
Have to agree with Randal and Rafter. Not only do I completely believe that they wouldn't have the brains to orchestrate it, but I fully believe that out of the numerous people that would have had to know about it, 100% of them keeping quiet after this long is near impossible.

On the issue of this latest bobble-head doll talking about terrorist attacks, I kinda wonder if its like a "don't step over this line" dare to al Kookda. Almost seems they're saying, "come on...hit us again if you got the balls!" Particularly at a time where there is mass public opinion against our occupation in Iraq, and a situation report due out in a couple of months that is doubtful to be positive.
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by mcvet July 19, 2007 10:09 AM EDT
DNC NEWS UPDATE

Okra Winprey says send your check payable to Barak The Magic Negro.
Posted by screen_name_ at 09:28 PM : Jul 18, 2007

ROFLMAO Is THIS the best you can do? Okay that's it! You will go to your corner with your Magic Swastika and stay until you can be a proper nazi! Geezzzzzz A 6 year old skin head could do better!!! ROFLMAO Dumb as a box of rocks!! Sieg Heil Bush!!
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by randalds July 19, 2007 6:57 AM EDT
%u201CConspiracy (crime), agreement between two or more natural persons to break the law at some time in the future%u201D

Posted by FeelFree1 at 02:01 AM : Jul 19, 2007

I agree that they are involved in a conspiracy to steal the taxpayers money via war, but I do not believe they conspired to cause 9-11 or are conspiring with al-Qaeda in any manner now either. I don't give them that much credit for being that smart enough to get away with it.
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by red164 July 19, 2007 5:40 AM EDT
http://tribes.tribe.net/911responseteam/thread/474244d0-8586-40e7-a4d4-7708e9055a1d

New study from Pilots for 9/11 Truth: No Boeing 757 hit the Pentagon


by Scholars for 9/11 Truth

Global Research, June 24, 2007



Pilots for 9/11 Truth obtained black box data from the government under the Freedom of Information Act for AA Flight 77, which The 9/11 Report claims hit the Pentagon. Analysis of the data contradicts the official account in direction, approach, and altitude. The plane was too high to hit lamp posts and would have flown over the Pentagon, not impacted with its ground floor. This result confirms and strengthens the previous findings of Scholars for 9/11 Truth that no Boeing 757 hit the buillding.
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by red164 July 19, 2007 5:20 AM EDT
Mike Gravel Senator D Presidential Candidate 2008

One of the leading opponents of the Vietnam War, Senator Gravel was one of the first current or former elected officials to publicly oppose the planned invasion of Iraq in 2002. He appeared on MSNBC prior to the invasion insisting that intelligence showed that there were indeed no weapons of mass destruction, that Iraq posed no threat to the United States and that invading Iraq was against America%u2019s national interests and would result in a disaster of epic proportions for both the United States and the Iraqi people.

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by feelfree1 July 19, 2007 5:01 AM EDT
RandalDS,

%u201CAll they worship is money and power and they'll gladly sell us, our soldiers and our nation to turn a profit.%u201D

%u201CThey are international business people, oil thieves and arms dealers first, foremost and last. Bush, Cheney and their ilk don't give enough of a sh*it about America to launch a conspiracy against us when they can just steal from us like they (are) already.%u201D

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%u201CConspiracy (crime), agreement between two or more natural persons to break the law at some time in the future%u201D

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by besscannon-2009 July 19, 2007 5:00 AM EDT
Is it possible that all this propaganda is so they can set up something we will think is ALqueda so Bush can keep his war going?
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by randalds July 19, 2007 4:42 AM EDT
Bottom line the Bush Admin. continues both train and fight the same enemy in Iraq. This at an enormous cost in both blood and treasure. Remember this War has cost thousands of lives, and hundreds of billions of dollars. Remember the terrorist stated policy is to drive us to economic ruin.
Posted by david1737 at 01:32 AM : Jul 19, 2007

Yeah but that's standard operating procedure for republicans. Reagan did the same thing by providing weapons (including chemical and biological ones) to Iraq at the same time he was selling arms to Iran. That's not a conspiracy. It's just their sick and demented way of conducting business. It's all about the money for them and scr*ew the troops and the tax payers. They don't care now any more or less then they ever did about America or it's people, just what they can scr*ew out of us. They aren't loyal to this country, it's people or it's principles. All they worship is money and power and they'll gladly sell us, our soldiers and our nation to turn a profit. They have no patriotism, no heart and no soul. They're not Americans. They are international business people, oil thieves and arms dealers first, foremost and last. Bush, Cheney and their ilk don't give enough of a sh*it about America to launch a conspiracy against us when they can just steal from us like they ar already. They care only about themselves and their immediate circle of mega rich friends and laugh at us behind our backs, since they're already back there anyway.
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by david1737 July 19, 2007 4:32 AM EDT
Bottom line the Bush Admin. continues both train and fight the same enemy in Iraq. This at an enormous cost in both blood and treasure. Remember this War has cost thousands of lives, and hundreds of billions of dollars. Remember the terrorist stated policy is to drive us to economic ruin.
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by feelfree1 July 19, 2007 4:05 AM EDT

www.zeitgeistmovie.com
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by randalds July 19, 2007 3:48 AM EDT
Naw, I still don't buy that. As much as I hate Bush and the neocons, I doubt even these guys would do that. The look of complete bewilderment on Bush's face when told of the 9-11 attack on camera in that school proved that to me. Bush isn't that good of an actor. Plus, the dumba$$ just stayed there reading that book. If it was pre-planned, I think they would have put on a better show, showing a strong, decisive Bush by leaving immediately to take command. Instead, we saw the real Bush in a crisis - confused and lacking in any leadership.



Posted by Rafterman1 at 10:16 PM : Jul 18, 2007

I gotta agree 100%. I hate Bush's guts more then just about any human alive (and rightfully so...the mouthy little pri*ck!), but I think it gives him too much credit for him to be part of some grand conspiracy. The sawed off little Napoleon want to be just isn't up to it.
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by randalds July 19, 2007 3:44 AM EDT
"What the report tells us is that we have constrained al Qaeda's ability to act against us. That al Qaeda believes, based on billions of dollars that we%u2019ve spent, that we are a more difficult and less vulnerable target for them."

Frances Townsend, White House counterterrorism adviser

She is nuts. Insane. Wacko. Crazy. No wonder Bush likes her. Our government gutted the Bill of Rights, wasted 3600+ plus troops lives on the wrong war, wounded 25,000 more troops, spent half a trillion dollars (so far) and the best it can come up with is that we've spent so much money that we've fooled al-Qaeda into thinking we're safer? That is complete madness!!!
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by ovation56 July 19, 2007 3:22 AM EDT
Simplemind2, I was going to reply to your post, but when I saw how you labeled yourself, you saved me the trouble. Thank you.
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