Comments on: 7 Killed In Afghan Helicopter Crash

5 Americans Among NATO Troops Who Died; Taliban Claims Responsibility

[tuckerndfw]

tuckerndfw,

Your analysis here is up to your usual high standard.

Posted by FeelFree1 at 12:22 AM : May 31, 2007

Thanks.

I realize that my comments can be depressing, but the truth is rarely very inspiring or exciting.

If Afghanis had wanted a western style secular democracy, they would have adopted it long ago. Same with the Iraqi people.

Attempting to impose "democracy" on other people at the point of a gun is truly one of the dumbest ideas I've ever heard.

And would seemingly be a contradiction on the face of it.

[feelfree1]

tuckerndfw,

Your analysis here is up to your usual high standard.

[tuckerndfw]

I certainly hope your forecast for the future of Afghanistan is incorrect.

Posted by markster6 at 11:52 PM : May 30, 2007

Reality check:

The majority of Afghanis are illiterate (about 60%).

The majority of Afghanistan lacks basic services, i.e., running water, indoor plumbing, electricity, etc.

The majority of Afghanistan is controlled by tribal leaders, most of whom are related by birth or marriage to the people over which they rule.

The majority of Afghanis are related by birth or marriage to members of the Taliban.

US forces or the "allies" will never in this life time be recognized as the rulers of Afghanistan. The only way to pacify Afghanistan is to murder every man, woman and child in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran and other surrounding areas.

Attempting to impose a western style secular democracy on illiterate, tribal people may be a worthy goal, but it ain't gonna happen.

The invasion of Afghanistan was as stupid as the invasion of Iraq, possible moreso.

And, the end result will be a Taliban (or equivalent) controlled Afghanistan with no foreign occupation forces within their borders. The only question is when.

[feelfree1]

Hi 'grazinggoat',

Re: "We're about to wake the idiot arse00008 up!"

I can almost smell it.

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What do you think of this man, marching 59 straight hours around the White House, for his fallen comrades and for the people of Iraq?

My guess is that CBS News couldn't care less about this Iraq War veteran. Exxon-Mobile can hardly make a profit from news like this.

Re: "-Evidence to inculpate Bush and COs to thefact it was an inside business. They wanted to save their idiot arses008..."

No doubt.

Have you seen this film yet? It is only just over 21 minutes, but jam-packed. A very good primer.

'The Third Stage'

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-5224963246223576086&q=%22third+stage%22

Cheers!

[markster6]

tuckerndfw
you are correct about most European members of NATO (such as France & Germany) not being there to fight.
I certainly hope your forecast for the future of Afghanistan is incorrect.

[feelfree1]

Related-

Courage to Resist. May 30, 2007. 7:00 pm PST

SACRAMENTO, CA %u2013 An Iraq War veteran %u2013 who insists on remaining anonymous as "only a representative" of his fallen comrades %u2013 began walking laps around the state capitol building Monday morning at 8:00 am. Fifty-nine hours later, he is still walking.

www.couragetoresist.org

[tuckerndfw]

The US and NATO are there to rid the land of the Taliban menace.

Posted by markster6 at 11:18 PM : May 30, 2007

Most European members of NATO are not in Afghanistan to do any fighting at all. They are there to satisfy their NATO obligation so they can collect billions of dollars from the US government.

The illusion that NATO is in Afghanistan to defeat anyone is Bush administration propaganda. As soon as Bush is thrown out of office, NATO will leave Afghanistan. And Kharzai will be assassinated.

After which, the Taliban will regain complete control of Afghanistan.

[tuckerndfw]

Invading Afghanistan was as stupid as invading Iraq.
Posted by tuckerndfw at 06:12 PM : May 30, 2007

Well, I don't know about that. They were harboring bin Laden after all.

Posted by roger_inkart at 08:30 PM : May 30, 2007

And, your point is?

You make that comment as if OBL has been captured and al qaida eliminated.

From where I sit, al qaida is thousands of times more influential, has tens of thousands more followers and OBL is still doing whatever he was doing on 9/10/01.

And, the Taliban still controls the majority of Afghanistan.

Which brings us back to my original point:

Invading Afghanistan was as stupid as invading Iraq. Possibly more stupid.

[feelfree1]

We will recall that Colon Powell put together a $43 million dollar "aid" package for the Talliban, in May of 2001, as a reward for irradication poppy production in Afghanistan.

Following the September 11, 2001 attacks, we remember that the Talliban leaders offered to extradite Osama bin Laden, requesting only evidence that he was involved in the attacks. The Bush regime declined.

If such evidence existed, imagine how much wasted blood, treasure, and dignity we could have saved.

[markster6]

The US and NATO are there to rid the land of the Taliban menace. The Taliban sheltered and supported Bin Laden & Co., and needs to be destroyed for the security of the American people.

One major problem is that NATO forces won't attack Waziristan where the Taliban has control. Pakistan ceded control of the Waziristan region, and thus the Taliban operates freely in this lawless land. NATO should not recognize a border that the enemy does not recognize. Take the leash off our fighting forces in accordance with the "Powell Doctrine".