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- Who knows what this guy has or hasn't done? Probably he's guilty of plenty. However after a few years of imprisonment and most likely torture, I'm sure they can get him to beg, roll over and play dead on command. The way I see it any public statements he makes now don't really amount to much and are long past relevant.
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- where's the proof this guy was involved in 9/11 or Pearl's murder ? ... they have none and we'll never see it - this is another stunning piece of propaganda by our greedership, controlled by the neocon oil agenda and hypnotically played over and over again on our so-called free press ... 9/11 was an inside job period ... the facts of that day don't fit the myth we've been told ...
www.911revisited.com ... watch the documenrary and make up your own mind ... - Reply to this comment
- "Everyone bashing Bush here again - this is an article on a "man" who we KNOW helped plan and execute 9/11!! ..."
fredgrad2000
Wow. There sure are a lot of "guilty until proven innocent", via torture nonetheless, people who claim to be Americans living on our land nowadays.
We don't KNOW anything until the accused has been justly tried and convicted, according to the American, not fascist, rule of law.
ST
"America is the mountain, tyranny the abyss."
SearingTruth
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- Posted by fredgrad2000 at 05:23 PM : Mar 15, 2007
You are incorrect.
The US Constitution is the authority by which all government agents operate. Anyone in custody of a US agent or agency is covered by the US Constitution.
If what you claimed was true, tourists visiting the US would have no legal rights under the constitution. That is clearly not the case.
Despite George Bush's demonstrated contempt for and opposition to the US Constitution, "enemy combatants" or "terrorists" are "criminals" and are entitled to the same protections as any other criminal. - Reply to this comment
- tuckerndfw Do you honestly believe that he would have made it alive into a court of law? He was arrested shortly after 9/11 and in the "euphoria" for lack of a better word of the American conscience would not have been very kind to him.
Posted by radiob at 05:09 PM : Mar 15, 2007
I do not know or care if he would have made it alive to a legitimate court.
It is highly likely the US Supreme Court will eventually overturn whatever these kangaroo courts decide. And, if they do so, it is likely he will go free, or face much lesser charges since much of the "evidence" cannot be used against him.
The end result is that justice will not be served regardless what happens. Even if these kangaroo courts order his execution, that will still not be justice due to the tainted evidence and proceedings.
Trials are supposed to be "fair" and operate under strict rules. These "trials" do not qualify. - Reply to this comment
- Everyone bashing Bush here again - this is an article on a "man" who we KNOW helped plan and execute 9/11!! And of course we didn't just pick him up in Pakistan, read him his Miranda Rights and give him a public defender in our courts. First and foremost, because he had information on further, yet launched, plots to kill us!! Trying him for past crimes was bottom of the list - first was finding out about the future crimes not yet committed that we could still stop. KSM is not an American citizen, he has no right to our civilian courts whatsoever; even if we consider him covered by the Geneva Conventions (which as a non-uniformed mercenary he has no legal right), all we are required to do is hold him until Osama and Ayman surrender - until then he can rot wherever we choose to hold him! POWs (if he was one) are held until the conflict is over - which it is not. I think trying him in a military commission or anywhere at all is a waste - we know Osama and the rest of the Islamofascists will never surrender, so we can just let these killers rot until they die of old age...amazing how the people here would rather bash our President than a killer.
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- "Note to the Bush at any cost apologists:
When you stoop to your enemies level, IE torture...you become THEM."
Yukinfahoo
"We have become the enemy we fought."
SearingTruth
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- "Absolutely pathetic. Pure heartbleed over a guy who likely helped attack our country. ..."
vbnvbn
What evidence do you have that he helped attack our country (that he didn't purportedly secretly confess right after his head was pulled out of the water)...
ST
"He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself."
Thomas Paine, Dissertation on First Principles of Government, December 23, 1791
"It is the madness of folly, to expect mercy from those who have refused to do justice; and even mercy, where conquest is the object, is only a trick of war; the cunning of the fox is as murderous as the violence of the wolf."
Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776
"Some are sheep, some are wolves, but thankfully, some are lions."
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- tuckerndfw Do you honestly believe that he would have made it alive into a court of law? He was arrested shortly after 9/11 and in the "euphoria" for lack of a better word of the American conscience would not have been very kind to him.
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- Note to the Bush at any cost apologists:
When you stoop to your enemies level, IE torture...you become THEM. - Reply to this comment
- What would have happened to him had he been tried in a normal court shortly after his arrest?
Posted by radiob at 04:53 PM : Mar 15, 2007
He would have been indicted for conspiracy to commit murder (and many other crimes) and most likely executed (assuming he is guilty).
But, as it is, it is not possible to try him in a legitimate court of law. The evidence is so tainted that no judge could ever allow it to be used in his prosecution.
Confessions obtained under duress or torture are inadmissible in a legitimate court. As is any other evidence gained from torture or coercion.
If he eventually goes free, we can thank George Bush and his moronic supporters. - Reply to this comment
- ST If memory serves will well in the book Against All Enemies there is a alleged plot by Bin Laden to kill Clinton.
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- "You "heard" - where? reading this forum? The amount of conjecture that becomes imagined reality around here is unbelievable. "Future of the Brave"? Hardly."
vbnvbn
Oh no, your proud vice fuhrer Cheney acknowledged that we were engaging in torture long ago, many times, but here's one of my favorites from Washington itself -
"Cheney Confirms That Detainees Were Subjected To Water-boarding
By Jonathan S. Landay
McClatchy Newspapers
WASHINGTON - Vice President *** Cheney has confirmed that U.S. interrogators subjected captured senior al-Qaida suspects to a controversial interrogation technique called "water-boarding," which creates a sensation of drowning. ..."
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/news/columnists/jonathan_s_landay/15847918.htm
A Future of the Brave? - Oh yes. People such as yourself are the only ones to trying to stop it.
ST
"Cherish, therefore, the spirit of our people, and keep alive their attention. Do not be too severe upon their errors, but reclaim them by enlightening them. If once they become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I, and Congress, and Assemblies, Judges, and Governors, shall all become wolves."
Thomas Jefferson, letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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- Posted by vbnvbn at 04:42 PM : Mar 15, 2007
In other words, you support people who oppose the US Constitution?
It is irrelevant what people who are tortured claim. George Bush was not beng tortured when he declared the US Constitution to be "just a go**amned piece of paper."
That makes him a far greater threat to the US than anyone else. Terrorists cannot destroy the US Constitution, they can only kill people. Bush & supporters are attempting to kill the Constitution and by doing so, the United States of America.
That makes Bush & his bootlickers a far more serious threat than OBL or "terrorists." - Reply to this comment
- Although CBS would never print it here, I read where one of Khalid Sheikh Mohammed's plans was to assassinate Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter.
What do you say now, Liberals?
Do you still not care that we caught him, or will you suddenly change your minds? - Reply to this comment
- I don't care if this guy confessed, I still want Bin Laden's head. It is convienent that this guy has confessions for so many things... seems like a diversion if you ask me.
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- From the BBC He has already been indicted, since 1996, with plotting to blow up 11 or 12 American airliners flying from south-east Asia to the United States in January, 1995.
The 9/11 report that specifically deals with KSM
http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/911Report_Ch5.htm
What would have happened to him had he been tried in a normal court shortly after his arrest? - Reply to this comment
- Mirror
My friends, sometimes the most difficult thing about fighting evil is realizing that it actually exists, and then unambiguously and forcefully calling it what it is.
History shows time and time again that one of evils greatest strengths is its ability to disguise itself as good, or at least a temporary necessity, until that last fatal moment when its revelation becomes clear, indisputable, and inescapable.
So today let us take a clear and unadulterated look into the mirror at ourselves.
Just six years ago we were one of the most respected and admired defenders of democracy and human rights in history. Respected not only by our friends, but even begrudgingly by most of our enemies. In fact, even the fantastic power of our military paled in comparison to the overwhelming might of our moral authority.
Today we are a nation that operates secret prisons occupied by anonymous inmates, illegally abducted and held indefinitely without charge or representation. We are guilty of torture. We are guilty of murder. We are guilty of preemptive war of conquest. We are guilty of the wholesale surveillance of our population, suppressing all hope of privacy and free dissent. And we are guilty of disgracing our nation through the abandonment of even our most basic precepts of morality.
If this is not evil, then nothing we have ever fought against is evil, and nothing we have ever fought for is good.
Excerpt from A Future of the Brave
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- "I am a veteran of the US Army MP Corps.
I took an oath to support and defend the US Constitution and obey all (lawful) orders. I have never been relieved of the requirements of that oath. I am no longer under the authority of the Commander in Chief or UCMJ, but even if I was, the current Commander in Chief is an enemy of the US Constitution and must be opposed. ..."
tuckerndfw
Fellow patriot, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and Benjamin Franklin are looking down upon you now and they are well pleased. Very well pleased.
ST
"The value of liberty was thus enhanced in our estimation by the difficulty of its attainment, and the worth of characters appreciated by the trial of adversity."
George Washington, letter to the people of South Carolina, Circa 1790
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- Wow. What a patriotic traitor.
Posted by vbnvbn at 04:25 PM : Mar 15, 2007
Any "American" who refers to the US Constitution as "just a go**amned piece of paper" is a traitor. As are those who support any such person.
Bush & his bootlickers are intimately acquainted with opposing the US Constitution, it's what they do on a continual basis.
It isn't treason in the legal sense, but it is treason as the word is commonly used. - Reply to this comment
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