Comments on: Bush 'Taken Aback' By Musharraf Claim

President Says He Knew Nothing About Reputed U.S. Threat Against Pakistan

[shutupmurtha]

grazinggoat, are you ok? huh...duh. You realize everyone can see your comment. Can I ask what you would do differently to protect our country? Do you think it makes more sense to let Pakistan provide a safe haven for terrorists, or did you think we could reason with them to help catch Osama Bin Laden? So can you tell me the exact things that we did to "bully" these countries that you speak of or is all just hot air? You think that we just busted down musharafffff's door with m-16's and grenade launchers and forced him into submission? Or do you think that perhaps we have tried to reason with him and his Muslim comrads, but maybe they aren't very receptive? Do you think we are "bullying" Iran too almost a month after the deadline for their program with no consequences? Were we bullying Hezbollah who is now saying they wont obey anything we and the united nations demand? Do you think we are bullying or maybe not being tough enough...hmmmmm.... I deal in facts not feelings, so your gonna have to do better than that.

[zykracosmos]

To you naysayers who immediately pick up for Armitage and Bush, ask yourself this- Where would Mussharraf, a Pakistani Muslim, pick up the phrase "we'll bomb you back into the stone age?" That's exactly what you would expect henchman Armatage to say. Why would Musharraf have a reason to lie about this? He has already parted with other Muslim countries with his steadfast support for American efforts to end the Taliban's rule, while risking repeated assassination attempts on his own life. What does it take for you neocons to dump your egocentric rightwing beliefs long enough to listen to something besides the propaganda from the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld circle that you so readily absorb? Sometimes it seems like there are just too many stupid people in our country to ever elect qualified leaders anymore, and we are destined to acquiese our world leadership to the Europeans.

[shutupmurtha]

grazinggoat, are you ok? huh...duh. You realize everyone can see your comment. Can I ask what you would do differently to protect our country? Do you think it makes more sense to let Pakistan provide a safe haven for terrorists, or did you think we could reason with them to help catch Osama Bin Laden? So can you tell me the exact things that we did to "bully" these countries that you speak of or is all just hot air? You think that we just busted down musharafffff's door with m-16's and grenade launchers and forced him into submission? Or do you think that perhaps we have tried to reason with him Muslim comrads, but maybe they aren't very receptive? Do you think we are "bullying" Iran too almost a month after the deadline for their program with no consequences? Were we bullying Hezbollah who is now saying they wont obey anything we and the united nations demand? Do you think we are bullying or maybe not being tough enough...hmmmmm.... I deal in facts not feelings, so your gonna have to do better than that.

[shutupmurtha]

Muslim presidents seem to have a bent towards lying. Im not surprised.

[shutupmurtha]

I think Pakistan is a terrorist country and that we should treat them accordingly. W is being to soft on this one. Lets bomb Pakistan back a couple years. They are barely out of the stone age.

[grazinggoat]

Next one to come along with such a declaration shall be Berlusconi (former Italian P.M), J-M Aznar (Spanish former Prime Minister) and the others who have been forcefully 'hired' into the G.Walking-Liar-Bush war.

Remember what he said in the United Nation prior to his invasion into Iraq? You got to side with us or against us. There's no middle ground.
Bush will be taken aback again. Huh! Did I say that?

Let time run by and watch... but that'll be too late. Bush mandate would have expired by then.

[rsoxfan1123]

Grannysue1 , I didn't know about the 1998 Blitzer interview- valid points you are making. You're right, he left bin Laden in Tora Bora and ran after Iraq in the name of 9/11.

[grannysue1]

Yea right he was surprised, after he gave a speech branding countries as an axis of evil, telling everyone in the U. N. to basically go to hell and then invading IRAQ which he said in a 1998 interview with Wolfe Blitzer he would do, he brought his phoney swagger and bravado to the White House and passed it around to his primary staff and they knew what their marching orders were. The only thing any of this administrations super neocrats have in common is they all like to threaten other countries on the back of the U.S. military. I am sure that when they told him Bin Laden was at Tora Bora he said, well let him stay there, cause were blowing the hell out of IRAQ

[sparkinstx]

Also, I would've threatened Pakistan too. After all, the country was (and still is) crawling with Taliban, and was the Taliban's biggest supporter. I wouldn't be surprised if UBL were hiding out in Pakistan today.

I give props to Musharraf though, as he's had to walk a fine line, and put up with assassination attempts, in exchange for supporting the WoT.

[sparkinstx]

SeeBS should change the name of "60 Minutes" to "Pimp My Book". It wouldn't surprise me if loose cannon Armitage said that. After all, he's said some pretty strange things on TV.

[alphaa10-2009]

this is a test of b bolding /b . If this does not display as bold, CBS has "neutered" the HTML feature of bolding, at least, for the time being.

[alphaa10-2009]

perception5 said, " b This is how "big business" works and I'm taking abuot CBS. /b

Before you lapse automatically into full denial, consider the fact Bush has admitted his own rhetoric immediately post-911 was full of excess, such as "Bring it on!" (conveniently forgetting they already had brought it on to NYC). Bush also admitted recently-- after three years of coupling Iraq and 911 in the same sentence-- 911 has no direct relation to Iraq. In keeping with the low standard of accuracy set by Bush, it is not surprising Armitage should have been guilty of these words, however "Shocked! Shocked!" Bush professes to be. Who believes him, anymore?

And even if Musharraf is entirely correct in his account, it is obvious Bush will not rush forward to confirm such remarks from Armitage, who has a history of being a bit careless with his own verbal behavior.

Even more to the point, immediately post-911, the attitude of many in the Bush administration was one of a clueless, charging elephant. Not sure of the exact target for retaliation, many in the Bush camp began talking about Saddam, Bush included, though there was no evidence then, or now, for the inference.

As a measure of exactly how confused the Bush regime was, Wolfowitz had to have the relevance of al Qaeda explained to him, once again.

[grazinggoat]

Nice work President, Nice work. That is something to be proud of.

Bullying, Bullying, bullying all the way down the alley untill the mob comes to you...

So now whom don't we have as an ennemy? Israel and Blair? Would it not be of the bullying attitude we have they'd be our ennemies as well...

[ralphj53]

September 22, 2006

Hello;

I agree with President Bush about "being taken aback" by the remark attributed to Armitage.

Remarks like this only serve as a THREAT to Musharaf and Pakistan, and doesn't do any good at keeping people as potential friends.

It's like saying... with remarks like these... "who needs enemies?" There are more pressing problems the U.S. Government has to deal with than making additional problems with itself.

President Bush has always said that "Diplomacy is the first course to take" when confronted with a possible complication on International affairs.

During world war two, the world was not as comlicated as it is today. Besides, our enemies "forced" the war on to America's doorstep and we had no choice but to go "all out" come what may.

"Discretion is the better part of valor."

Let's talk first and see what can be resolved through diplomatic endeavours. War must be the last resort.

This goes to show you that you can win a post in government without being "necessarily qualified" for the post.

Thanks,
Ralphj53

[perception5]

This is how "big business" works and I'm taking abuot CBS. "Musharaff's book will be published by Simon & Schuster, which is part of CBS Corp." And in addition to that CBS's 60 Minutes will promote these tales, get advertisers to sign on so they make the most money possible. Can anyone say "self serving" or "conflict of interest"? Sad..... sad indeed.... where in our MSM can Americans turn to get "unbaised" and "fact" based reporting? Hint......... C-span