Comments on: Canadian Falsely Accused Of Terrorism

Panel Faults Canada, U.S. For Torture Of Software Engineer In Syria

[shutupmurtha]

Well said.

[shutupmurtha]

John Quincy Adams
Sixth President of The United States of America
1830 said that.

[shutupmurtha]

"In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar (mohammed), the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth. Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent god; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female ***, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE...Between these two religions, thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. The war is yet flagrant...While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon the earth, and good will towards men"

[drgoodwin12]

This is for all the idiots charging so called liberals as idiots.Have you ever heard of Ruben "Hurricane" Carter who in 1962 was arrested and convicted of murder,all along maintaining his innocence,well 20 years later the truth came out and Hurricane was sent free as he was an innocent man,he just happened to be black.The same ideology is at work now with Muslims,they are automatically guilty until proven innocent and sometimes beaten and tortured.Not all muslims are terrorist that's the equivalent of saying all the christians during the witch trials (salem) were guilty of the crimes waged against the victims which the majority of had epilepsy.

[sk_w]

"Have any of the Liberal loons posting here acknowledged the fact that terrorists lie to get people like you on their side?"

Great argument. I guess that means from now on..NOBODY accused of being a terrorist can EVER be considered innocent. After all, terrorists lie... even if they are proved innocent. Heck criminals (other than terrorists) lie too. In that case...we should just throw everybody thats ever been suspected of a crime in jail and keep them there. Real smart...

[one_american]

Have any of the Liberal loons posting here acknowledged the fact that terrorists lie to get people like you on their side?

Until you do, your opinions mean nothing.

[clestes-2009]

Of course it happens all the time. Why has over 400 prisoners in Guantamo been there for years with NO CHARGES.

Because they were rounded up with NO EVIDENCE and thrown in jail. Then shrub claims he must break the law to try them as "enemy combantment" because he has NO PROOF. There has NEVER been any proof of wrongdoing. As I said before. All this "War On Terror" has accomplished nothing. No convictions whatsoever.

Try listening to something beside Rush Limbaugh and reading some on US foreign policy. "All the Shah's Men" is a good start.

Did you not know this??

[sk_w]

To the first few users who still believe he is guilty: be careful what you ask for.

Just because he had 'met' with somebody who was under investigation does not mean he was guilty of anything (as the investigation confirmed). No it did not take them 2.5 years to figure out he's innocent (he was declared innocent long before that). It took them this long to formally declare what happenend and who was at fault.

I don't know about you, but I certainly don't want to live in an America which uses guilt by association.

Just imagine...yourself being thrown in jail without trial for 'knowing' the wrong person...

Or whenever there's a drug bust, we could start throwing all acquaintances of the drug dealers in jail. And if they're not citizens, we could deport them to countries that would torture a confession out of them.

How sick. Guilt by association? Sounds a lot like the countries we're waging war against...

[kevboom]

Further proof that there is no limit to the stupidity of right-wing Americans, who will goose-step down the road to hell behind their president, believing everything they are told. And you want to compare radical muslims to the nazis? Look in the mirror. You're condoning torture, moron! Of innocent people! What's wrong with you? I teach logical thinking to 6th graders who could put together a better argument than you. Look up some facts. But of course you have none, because your president and the CIA bury everything, including their screw up's among this one, so we never know the truth. Yeah, just keep blaming everything on Clinton. Whatever you need to tell yourself to justify further torture, murder, senseless death of our own troops, and a $300 billion war that's drained our paper economy and accomplished little more than further hatred of America. That's on your hands my friend.

[shutupmurtha]

clestes
Wow this happens all the time? Oh yeah we run around arresting muslims, if anything we dont do it enough. You are dumb if you believe this garbage at face value. He was meeting with people who were under survielance for terrorism. They had enough to put him on the terrorist watch list. So he was up to something regaurdless of the slanted wording of this article. I just hope we dont see this guy back in the news with his picture along side those wackos that blew up the WTC. And maybe we would be even more effective at getting these guys if we could interegate them harder.

[shutupmurtha]

This guy must have had ties to something, two and a half years is along time to clear some one who is completely innocent. We wont even prosecute the terrorists we do have let alone rashly throw muslims around to different countries. We are to careful on this stuff, for this to happen. He must have had money ties or something to ISlamoWAkoNazis. Oh he looks so innocent doesnt he, poor guy. If he was really completely innocent than that sucks, but there seems to be to much here to think that two of the most powerful, competent countries in the world would do this for no reason. My senses tell me there is alot more to this story and that CBS is doing this for their political agenda. I am sure we will here more on this in the coming days. Hopefully the truth will come out.

[clestes-2009]

The "something" he did was have the wrong last name. Are you stupid or don't read. This has been happening all the time. It is just worse now under shrub & co.

Try reading a little bit about a subject before you start making ignorant remarks and you won't sound so stupid.

[shutupmurtha]

this same guy will probably be the next suicide bomber to blow the capital, He and his AlQueada friends are probablly laughing at this right now.

Was he an illeagal citizen, why was he arrested, why was he suspected, what are they not telling us in this cbs report, wy was he suspected of bing in Al Queada, there are to many whys and whats in this story. It looks to me (from what I know) that we just let a terrorist go. We obviously didnt do it because he was muslim because we go out of our way to give Cair a tour of security at one of our biggest airports. And it took a 2 1/2 year investigation by th Canadians to clear charges? He must have been neck deep in something??? And now he sits on tv with his poochy lip, mr nice guy face and says "oh, this was so horrible" I want the truth.

[shutupmurtha]

Right, the media is blowing this out of proportion. You dont just et picked up for terrorism charges walking on the street. I dont buy it, he obviously did something.

[sharncedar]

"The rendition program is a delicate tool the CIA has for intelligence gathering. "

Interesting. There is always a gap between rules and stated ideals and actual practice. For example, it is true in WWII there was some torture going on by US allies. My first instinct is like most citizens who are only potential victims after all to say that torture should be outlawed, and anyone doing it tried for war crimes, but the realists point out that a "little" torture now and then might not be so bad. Perhaps that is all Bush is trying to say, in his clumsy, foot-in-mouth way.

Even if that is the case, what he misses is that the official rule can never be torture, meaning, even if secretly there are a few cases here and there, they must still be illegal and if caught prosecuted for war crimes, so that our ideal of ourselves can be maintained. That is a difficult concept for simple-minded folks like Bush and his followers, isn't it. Maybe that's the problem here - Bush and his rich friends know already that torture has been going on for decades, so what's the big deal. But it is a big deal to admit that publicly, it changes our notion of what is right and wrong. Something like that.

Interesting.

We can torture, as long as we believe it to be wrong. Something like that is the reality, too subtle for Bush.

[Syndicate]

Give him twenty million. For twenty million you can take me to syria.

[clestes-2009]

This is exactly what happens when the basic personal freedoms and protections provided by the constitution are ignored. Our founding fathers knew that when the government had no constraints on it, it would be not long before people would be swept up who had done nothing wrong and imprison them.

In fact, all the abusing of our civil liberties and infringing on our rights has accomplished nothing. Not one terror conviction has come from it that has not been overturned by appeal. NOT ONE.

It is all a sham people. Bush has delusions of power. He sees himself as some great leader when in fact he has FAILED at everything he has ever tried to do. Most people who are continual failures have dreams of greatness. Just look at Zacharia Moussoui. Bush and he are more alike than different. Bush has failed at being president too. He has accomplished NOTHING positive in 6 years. Not content with accomplishing nothing, he has implmented policies have caused a great deal of damage. He will go down in US history as the biggest leader wannabe ever. Always compared to his Dad, who was no great leader either, but better than his son.

[getcentered]

Come on "mcdazz".
Look how you mention Clinton. Has Karl Rove made you a puppet of GOP talking points?

Look, CIA "extraordinary rendition" has been going for many decades, MANY Presidents. Why people are naming Clinton is beyond me. Under President Bush the program has operated on a much larger scale then ever before and that is what is profound, not just that the program exists.

The rendition program is a delicate tool the CIA has for intelligence gathering. We don't need people who are clumsy to be handling oversight. From President Bush on down, GET THESE CURSORY LEADRERS OUT OF OUR WHITE HOUSE!
Politics weakens the usefulness of intelligence!

The CIA, Bush and Clinton (who gave approval to the policy of "extraordinary rendition" back in the 90's), all have a lot to answer for.

And I hope they pay for their crimes.