Socialism and the politics of being represented by the TOKEN black guy and NEVER really explaining to America what you mean by '' socialism'' and JUMPING every single story in the direction of Obama without getting ALL of the facts of the story before you open your mouth to the public to express an opinion.
Oh, it's quite clear where the idiocy is coming from in this little exchange.
Newsflash to the pro-capitalists: when the government intervenes on behalf of the capitalist class in order to prevent their institutions (i.e. banks, auto companies) from going under, that ain't socialism: that's STATE CAPITALISM. And the fact that the government HAS to bail out these firms in order to prevent the whole economy from going under is proof positive that your beloved "free" market DOES. NOT. WORK.
Other little fact: real capitalists don't believe in free markets either. They WANT government intervention: they just want it FOR THEM, not for the working class. And usually, they get what they want; after all, the state is their state. (I'm sure some of you think a stateless capitalism is possible. Question: if there's no state, who's gonna enforce the contracts?)
Sorry, folks, but interdependence is a fact of life and collectivization is inevitable. Real socialists want this collectivization to be democratic and participatory and cooperative, with workplaces managed by their workers and the inevitable planning of the economy to be from the bottom up. The only alternative is an authoritarian "planned economy" run by private business. Free market capitalism is dead. Deal with it.
Oh, and no real socialist anywhere in the world believes Obama to be one of us. It's a laughable idea.
The Author here seems to want us all to believe that our President has never been affiliated with any socialist group...how clever of him. The problem is that any of us could research it ourselves and find Obama's involvement in the Chicago DSA...www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng47.html and think the Author's claim invalid. For years I didn't identify myself as belonging to a specific party, I tried to understand from many perspectives...but here lately I am becoming more and more resentful of our President's agenda. I am becoming more and more opposed to my financial independence and personal health care being directed by those that believe they should have a bigger piece of my pie. You take care of you and I'll take care of me. You earn your dollar and spend it as you wish and I'll do the same with mine, but you do not have the right to my dollar. Please be a good citizen and pay for yourself.
This has nothing to do woth "political titles", it's a ruse for the stupid people. There is no "2-party" system in america, it's the get elected at any cost party; stay in the elite, ruling fat cat class. All of the "leftist, socialist, communist, pinkoes, ad nauseam" is just cover for those that want to steal from the people. They've managed to use TV "news" & propaganda to keep the electorate focused on meaningless trivia. The 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: (1) the growth of democracy, (2) the growth of corporate power, and (3)the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy. The big corporations won because of americans' apathy or they voted contrary to their own interests. Fudalistic plutocracy follows.
This has nothing to do woth "political titles", it's a ruse for the stupid people. There is no "2-party" system in america, it's the get elected at any cost party; stay in the elite, ruling fat cat class. All of the "leftist, socialist, communist, pinkoes, ad nauseam" is just cover for those that want to steal from the people. They've managed to use TV "news" & propaganda to keep the electorate focused on meaningless trivia. The 20th century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: (1) the growth of democracy, (2) the growth of corporate power, and (3)the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy. The big corporations won because of americans' apathy or they voted contrary to their own interests. Fudalistic plutocracy follows.
Obama?s regime is forcing trillions of taxpayer?s dollars at corporate failures to give a false sense of security. It?s not working. You cannot prop up hundreds of collapsing businesses without the economy taking a serious hit. It?s not just the failures the government interferes with, it?s the successful businesses as well. The FDIC recently pressured a community bank in Boston?East Bridgewater Savings?for not lending enough to high risk borrowers, and making a profit, to boot. East Bridgewater Savings ended 2008 with $135 million in assets and deposits of $84 million; on average, one of the more successful banks in the U.S.
3. Government takeover of the country's health care system.
If the government takes over health care in this country, there will be a Darwinization of medicine. Government claims agents will be appointed to decide whether or not your life is worth saving or if it?s ?necessary? to provide treatment. The government will decide which doctor you will have, what kind of treatment will be allocated, and when. Like Canada. Like Britain. Like Germany. You will have no choice.
If you think the cost of medical treatment is high enough now, just wait if Obama gets his way.
Who do think will foot the bill for this train wreck? If you said ?the already overburdened taxpayers?, congratulations.
The socialized medicine in Europe and Canada is so dicked up that seriously ill people will fly or drive here to get treatment. If anyone is stupid enough to believe that we should model our system after theirs, by all means travel to Canada, and see for yourself.
And take a number.
This jack-booted method of taking control of the nation?s economic infrastructure is pure socialism, and will lead to a catastophic depression.
I respect your point, however disgree on one of your assertions in your article. Your statement about "capitalism going unrestricted" being the cause for the meltdown of the economy is incomplete. The mortgage industry, along with the federal government intervention in Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, allowed the mortgage crises to happen. This is like a train switch operator falling asleep on his shift, causing an accident. The former President warned Congress of the mortgage meltdown, years before it happened. They refused to listen. So, we must face the consequences of the quality of the people we elect to Congress. Many hae fallen asleep at the switch.
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Newsflash to the pro-capitalists: when the government intervenes on behalf of the capitalist class in order to prevent their institutions (i.e. banks, auto companies) from going under, that ain't socialism: that's STATE CAPITALISM. And the fact that the government HAS to bail out these firms in order to prevent the whole economy from going under is proof positive that your beloved "free" market DOES. NOT. WORK.
Other little fact: real capitalists don't believe in free markets either. They WANT government intervention: they just want it FOR THEM, not for the working class. And usually, they get what they want; after all, the state is their state. (I'm sure some of you think a stateless capitalism is possible. Question: if there's no state, who's gonna enforce the contracts?)
Sorry, folks, but interdependence is a fact of life and collectivization is inevitable. Real socialists want this collectivization to be democratic and participatory and cooperative, with workplaces managed by their workers and the inevitable planning of the economy to be from the bottom up. The only alternative is an authoritarian "planned economy" run by private business. Free market capitalism is dead. Deal with it.
Oh, and no real socialist anywhere in the world believes Obama to be one of us. It's a laughable idea.
Thanks for the laugh...there was no need to read another word after this little bit of idiocy...ROTFLMAO...you really are delusional.
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Here Frank, let me define socialism for you:
1. Government takover of private industry, corporations, and the auto industry.
GM="Government Motors"
2. Jack-booted takeover of banks, and threatening those who won't comply:
http://townhall.com/columnists/DanKennedy/2009/07/10/obamas_climate_of_fear
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124078909572557575.html
Obama?s regime is forcing trillions of taxpayer?s dollars at corporate failures to give a false sense of security. It?s not working. You cannot prop up hundreds of collapsing businesses without the economy taking a serious hit. It?s not just the failures the government interferes with, it?s the successful businesses as well. The FDIC recently pressured a community bank in Boston?East Bridgewater Savings?for not lending enough to high risk borrowers, and making a profit, to boot. East Bridgewater Savings ended 2008 with $135 million in assets and deposits of $84 million; on average, one of the more successful banks in the U.S.
3. Government takeover of the country's health care system.
If the government takes over health care in this country, there will be a Darwinization of medicine. Government claims agents will be appointed to decide whether or not your life is worth saving or if it?s ?necessary? to provide treatment. The government will decide which doctor you will have, what kind of treatment will be allocated, and when. Like Canada. Like Britain. Like Germany. You will have no choice.
If you think the cost of medical treatment is high enough now, just wait if Obama gets his way.
Who do think will foot the bill for this train wreck? If you said ?the already overburdened taxpayers?, congratulations.
The socialized medicine in Europe and Canada is so dicked up that seriously ill people will fly or drive here to get treatment. If anyone is stupid enough to believe that we should model our system after theirs, by all means travel to Canada, and see for yourself.
And take a number.
This jack-booted method of taking control of the nation?s economic infrastructure is pure socialism, and will lead to a catastophic depression.
How?s that ?change? working for you?