Comments on: Obama Should Support Honduras Coup

John R. Thomson: What Happened Was Not A Standard Coup, And Zelaya's Return To Power Would Only Be A Victory For Chavez

[rocketjl]

It is pretty clear that there is much more to this than those people are willing to tell the world.

On this matter and at this point President Obama does not speak for me.

[johninpennsyl]

Since when did Americans start worrying about the Honduran constitution?
Nobody in the goverment here gives a tin whistle about ours.

[wdh3007]

It sounds as if the Supreme Court and Military helped the rest of this nations people by freeing them from a marxist dictator who is in line with Chavez. It's hard to see the crime here especially if Zelaya himself was a criminal. This situation might be an exception to the rule for a poor country in having a peaceful & physical removal of a president with just means.

[bajajohn1]

Used to be called Gunboat Diplomacy. Now the world has changed and President Obama won election to a job that no sane person would want, if he really knew the extent of the mess on the table before he won that job.

[bajajohn1]

When there is hunger in the land, people ususally make a left turn to seek help.

[Ceres6]

To brianbwb-2009

In a good manner, one by one I will try to give an answer to the statements you make. Even though it is true that many Hondurans are poor, it is not right to say that the majority of Honduran people support Mr. Zelaya. There is a great difference between being poor, and being poor and slave. Are you aware, following Chavez techniques, what have happened in Venezuela, Ecuador, Bolivia, and Nicaragua in the last 11 years?

Step #1: The president indicates that he wants to make a referendum to change the constitution.
Step #2: No matter what the results of the referendum, the president will say that he was given permission to change the constitution and to dissolve or transform Congress.
Step #3: The president removes from congress all the politicians from the opposition parties. From now on, everything the president proposes gets an automatic rubber stamp approval from Congress.
Step #4: Every 4 years, the president is automatically reelected. All the members in the Supreme Court are replaced by the president puppets. Every TV station, newspaper, or radio station that says something against the government, is attacked by a mob and later is fined and closed. All three branches of government are 100% controlled by the president.

No one has to be an Einstein to see that the Honduran people prevented the destruction of their constitution by Mr. Zelaya, and avoided becoming pawns of Mr. Chavez.

And you talk about corruption. There is corruption everywhere, not only in Latin America. Even in the United States there is a lot of corruption. Let me give you two examples: there are thousands of executives that were working for companies that were going bankrupt, however, each of them received millions of dollars in bonuses on top of their mega salaries. What about the corrupt people from Wall Street, that because of despicable greed, they dragged the economies of the entire planet to the ground because they wanted to make tons of money.

That?s why, It does not matter if you are Honduran or American, we cannot remain quiet if corruption affect our lives. I believe that Mr. Obama is doing something positive to help the U.S. economy, and to eliminate the corrupt practices mentioned above. However, I also believe that he is wrong not to support now the Honduran people, and permit that the tyrant Chavez gets away with the slavery of Hondura. When people lose all their freedoms, slavery is the right word to use. This is simply what he wants to do: he wants Honduran people to be his pawns, as he has already done in several Latin countries.

Although it is true that in the past, the U.S. government and multinational companies have taken advantage of most Latin countries, and they have greatly contributed to their poverty, that is not a reason not to do anything now. That?s why it is important to get involved. I am a US citizen, and I care a lot about what happen to Latin American people, and I will do my best to fight the evil and bloody practices of Hugo Chavez, and his puppet, Mr. Zelaya.

It is an irony that a few days ago, Mr. Obama, without hesitation, said to The Colombian President, Mr. Alvaro Uribe, that 8 years was enough to be president of his nation, because Mr. Uribe has been president for 7 years, and he may want to be reelected again. But what happened a few weeks ago. Mr. Obama had an encounter with Mr. Chavez. Although Mr. Chavez has been already president for 11 years, the only thing Mr. Obama told Chavez was to promise to the South American despot that he was not going to interfere in the Venezuelan affairs! Many people are feeling down and perplexed after witnessing the actions of Mr. Obama. At this pace, instead of being known as the Colossus of the North, the United States will gain the title of the Pussycat of the North.

You are wrong when you say that ?Mr. Chavez and his company have no need to destroy America.? Are you going to wait until all Latin American countries fall under Chavez, and become vicious enemies of the United States? Don?t you see the sick hatred of Hugo Chavez, Rafael Correa, Daniel Ortega, and Manuel Zelaya against the United States? If you cannot see that, then it is impossible for us to agree to almost anything. Maybe the only thing we will agree is that we care about our fellow Americans from different angles.

[andylance1]

Honduras is one of the poorest nations in the hemisphere, and yet their political leaders and institutions acted with courage and good intentions. The cabal of pro-Chavez nations have usurped democratic ideals and institutions in their own lands and in the case of Bolivia have split their nation in two.

The international community and media has seriously misjudged events in Honduras and have behaved like predatory jackals with crocodile tears.

[abbe91]

These are declassified documents which show why we have to be so proud of what we did for Chile.

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB8/nsaebb8i.htm

[abbe91]

On 26 May 1973, Chile?s Supreme Court unanimously denounced the Allende régime?s disruption of the legality of the nation in its failure to uphold judicial decisions, because of its continual refusal to permit police execution of judicial resolutions contradicting the Government's measures.
On 22 August 1973 the Christian Democrats and the National Party members of the Chamber of Deputies voted 81 to 47, the resolution titled Declaration of the Breakdown of Chile?s Democracy that asked the military to put an immediate end to breach[es of] the Constitution . . . with the goal of redirecting government activity toward the path of Law and ensuring the Constitutional order of our Nation, and the essential underpinnings of democratic co-existence among Chileans.


There wasn't really a coup in Chile either and Nixon was definitively right to support it, ordering the CIA to depose President Allende ... in 1970.
Of course we know what happened next. A perfect democracy under Pinochet.

[bajajohn1]

Used to be called Gunboat Diplomacy. Now the world has changed and President Obama won election to a job that no sane person would want, if he really knew the extent of the mess on the table before he won that job.

[brianbwb-2009]

Even more so when a google search turns up this Florida/right wing/Fauxnews connection...

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Floridians interfering in other countries' affairs. Pity.