Comments on: The Hatemongers' New Tool: The Internet:

Christopher Wolf: Internet Hate Is What Kept James Von Brunn's Hateful Lunacy At The Boiling Point

[voxpopulus]

People COME TO the internet full of hate. They don't come here healthy and then take it away.

[gunownerdan]

What's so new about the internet? I've been going on it for almost 15 years now! As long as people remember that self defense is a most important human right then it will not be hard for us to protect ourselves from these hateful extremists. Killers and other dangerous criminals will always prefer defenseless victims!

[skyk-2009]

Of course, as you know, I differ with you on this issue, but as I have found out from talking with you we also have common ground. Not just on the issue of people being able to defend themselves but other issues as well. I just feel that there should be training and license issued for Guns and Dealers... I am MUCH more afraid of a Wacked out Nut with a gun than I am of some kid stealing a Car... yet we require that cars are licensed but Guns aren't. Doesn't make any sense to me.

[stinger1z]

Hate and porn were on the internet as soon as the telephone modems starting chiming. It connected the world, for good and bad, not like this stuff didn't exist before. There's always going to be bad people, so I just live my life and be good and let the haters waste their time hating. Imagine what we'll see whenever we begin open communication with alien life, hehe!!

[andylance1]

The Internet is a tool for both good and evil. It is the world's largest library and a forum for all views, including racism and bigotry.

It seems like whenever there is a story on immigration or Mexicans, half the people responding are thinly disguised racists venting their hate and bile.
Savage, Limbaugh and Dobbs are three of the biggest media offenders spreading hate in America.

[skyk-2009]

Yes you are correct but just as the free airwaves allows Savage, Limbaugh and Dobbs to feed the bigotry of some my ability to sit here and discuss the points they raised, to debate those who tune them in EVERY day gives people of reason here the upper hand. Because someone was born in Mexico does NOT, in any way, make them inferior to someone born in Mississippi. The problem is that people like those you mentioned FEED the fear of the ones born in Mississippi. In other words the Problem that needs solving doesn't exist in Mexico but in MISSISSIPPI.

[bendagreat]

This is clearly an attempt to fear the public into accepting less freedom on the internet. I fell for this propaganda during the Bush administration and the patriot act. I have learned my lesson. Nothing is worth giving up our free speech and other constitutional rights. Nothing. If people want to be regulated and monitored and controlled, please leave the land of the free. Good Luck to all and God bless.

[thenietzschean]

I agree the media has always been an outlet for the government, in WWII it was Roosevelts lapdog and even through the bush years about all the "attemped" terrorist attacks that pushed his ratings every week. the government uses the media to control by fear... terrorism,gun crazed shooters, and child molesters... FEAR

[stupidiam]

like now! this administration is doing now, spreading fear, abc. cbs. nbc. cnn. msnbc. pbs. all sucking obamas butt, slobering over him. does not even challenge him on anything he says or does.COWARDS, FOR THE MEN, OBAMA COULD TAKE THERE WIVES AWAY FROM THEM AND THEY WOULD COWARDLY LET IT HAPPEN.THATS WHAT THE MEDIA IS DOING TO US. NOT ASKING ANY HARD QUSTIONS.

[SusanStoHelit]

YouTube does have content policies - once reported, hate videos are removed. Many of them are restricted to only show to 'friends' of the poster - who are like-minded individuals who pass them around.

[rbburnerjr]

How can you call what von Brunn posted wrong when Rush and the radical right post the same trash every day. Rush does dressup his hate retoric a little better than von Brunn but it is still has the same hate theme.

[Kintari]

I get real nervous when people start classifying speech. We are well down that road with political correctness already. If someone says something on the internet or anywhere else that you don't like you don't have to listen. We all have the right of free speech, no one has the right to be heard.

[revlin1]

Does that mean we will shut down Al Jazeerya? AND, other Islamic hate sites? I'm just wondering because do we know if the converted black Islamic guy (born in America) who killed that soldier was using internet? We hear that he was and had maps and other recruiting offices on his equipment seized by FBI. Now, doesn't that constitute hate? I'm so confused on this "controlling" of hate now by new admin gurus...So, the hate that we engage is is OK, but the Hate WE say YOU have isn't....That's how this is shaping up.

[skyk-2009]

I have no site for that Muslim guy you referred too. I have also checked with SPLC and they have none. He was a follower I believe the evidence shows. The Extremist in DC had a web site and was seeking to Recruit others to his twisted beliefs. MAJOR difference!

[stupidiam]

THE MUSLIM KILLED BECAUSE OF WHAT OUR SOLDIERS supposedly did to muslims. he justified his actions based on his belief, now the state run media hardly reported on this guy, why? take a guess. but a WHITE GUY shooting a sucurity guard now thats big news, not a muslim shooting a american soldier, it was 19 muslims who high jacked airplanes and killed 3000 ameicans, they are more often causing trouble in the world. wow this guy didnt do enough to get the headlines.

[tautomer]

This article sounds a lot like a prelude to Internet censorship. I don't condone what this guy did or his beliefs. If we close such speech down though, it may notbe long until we close down any anti-Obama or anti-Pelosi speech as being "hateful".

Idiots like this guy are, unfortunately the price we pay for our own free speech. We have gotten in the habit of legislating moderates under the guise of eliminatiing the extremes. This is not good.

[pcevet4]

When Gutenburg invented moveable type, the establishment must have said "What manner of ideas will they be putting into people's heads?" What resulted was the spread of democracy and religious freedom, among other things. The powers that be in Iran and China are asking the same questions, hence restrictions on Internet communication sites. Skyk-2009's right; you counter hate using the same means of communication. Most people are NOT violent loonies.

[mnbrant]

Hey. I just googled my great grandfathers last name Hyman. Jewish. Wow I am practically a Jew. The web site Half Jew says that you need to have either a
Jewish grandma or grandpa to be a Jew. However, with the Reconstructionist Jews they take practically anybody. Even Christians. Which I am. I'm gonna start studying my Jewish side tonite heh.

[thenietzschean]

Jewish or not Zionism is nationalism with HATE is just as damaging as Nazism.. just look at the injustice that the jews brought to the Arabs. the people displaced living in camps that are just as bad as Dachau, the land stolen( by land grads), the killing of children, tanks vs.kids with rocks? the "jews cry out against Nazi's but are they any better?

[mnbrant]

Yeah I am no Zionist. I support an Isreal/Palestine two state solution with Jerusulem going to the Palestinians due to the fact that its already 80% muslim. One interesting idea would be to open the whole area up and give each political group an equal piece of power and see how that goes. Of course you would need peacekeepers to make sure no big power goes in whenever things don't go their way.

[stupidiam]

why do the palestinions have to live in isreal, if their so called arab brothers love them sooo much why dont they give up their land? they have more of it, 10 times more land then isreal. you dont hear iran,iraq,syria,sadia arabia, pakastan, afganastan, all these lands to offer, but tiny isreal have to give up MORE of there GOD given land, they want the jews gone, thats what they want, not peace but death. we know!

[micheleisfree]

THE VERDICT IS IN!
Gayness is natural!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,526651,00.html
So much for you Bible thumpers swearing it's not natural.
Sorry, Bible thumpers!
I guess all those gay animals will go to Hell.
Which seems darned cruel of your god since they can't read the Bible.

Now we can wipe the ridiculous notion that gay is unnatural right off the radar!
Hail to Freedom and Equality!

[mnbrant]

heh. you don't go to hell simply because you can't read! Not for being gay either! You are doing gods work even if you have never heard of god and don't believe. (watch angels and demons) You are saved regardless of whether you have accepted Jesus into your life! Amen

[mnbrant]

Do you have any specifics? I want to watch (perhaps several times!) I have scoured youtube for Nazi propaganda and have yet to find any. Mostly what they have are German newsreels basically showing Nazi losses (and a few wins!) There are a few conspiracy theorists out there. Maybe thats what you are talking about. Looks at article header. Christopher Wolf, an attorney in Washington D.C., is Chair of the Anti-Defamation League?s Internet Task Force and Immediate Past Chair of the International Network Against Cyber-Hate thinks Americans are children who must be force fed baby food and pablum for their own good. There are of course Jewish groups bring their webcams to places such as Dachau showing off their trips. I suppose those must be suppressed as well as what they show may conflict with this guy. Thanks for reading.

[SusanStoHelit]

YouTube does have content policies - once reported, hate videos are removed. Many of them are restricted to only show to 'friends' of the poster - who are like-minded individuals who pass them around.

[skyk-2009]

Google Right Wing Hate Groups or go the Southern Poverty Law Center site.

[mnbrant]

I am too bored to google hate groups but I did go to the southern poverty law center web site. No you tube there. I did find myself quoted there. Aparently the write agreed with me that words mean things. He then described me as a fat gasbag. This does not endure me to the Southern Poverty Law Center and I will contine to make fun of them forever.

[skyk-2009]

As it is true that the internet has given this scum a place to vent their twisted views, it has also provided a way for American's to overcome that very hate. The Election of Obama and the speed with which bigotry and attack rumors were taken out of the discussion was directly related to the ability of people to get on line and discuss those tactics that in the past gave us the Bush's among others. I feel there is much more POSITIVE aspects to the Internet than negatives and it has certainly taken the most powerful tool available away from those who exploit fear and hate.

[thenietzschean]

you State that people use the net to place their twisted views but every thing that doesnt fit with yourpoint of view is "twisted", people have the right to nationalism and the right for white empowerment. hate comes with nationalism. we live in a twisted time where we save the whiles and kill our kids... I think our effort should be spent elsewhere.. the empowerment, an idea, a path- whats yours?