"I''''d say you''''re far more fixated on the desire to control than you are concerned about life". Posted by Zendigity at 09:18 AM : Dec 04, 2008 I have no desire to control your thoughts or personal actions effecting yourself. I do, however, think that it is wrong for a person who is pregnant to have the ability to kill the baby as if disregarding an old purse or pair of shoes. This is a child for which we are talking. I guess to you I am warped for believing in protecting life. And yes I have been involved in community service. In your state of mind, terminating babies as a convenience to the mother or population control should be the norm. What a truly warped sense of thinking! Hint!, don''t ever tell your children you feel this way, you will only devalue them!
"Fact is, women just don''''t like anyone telling them whether they can or cannot have a baby and banning abortions is forcing us to have them whether we like it or not". Posted by catlady1412 at 09:11 AM : Dec 04, 2008 What a very selfish statement!
Posted by tcandrews62 Yes, to use you as the model of a typical anti-choice individual, I''d say you''re far more fixated on the desire to control than you are concerned about life. You demand that everyone subscribe to your warped point of view as though you have some kind of understanding that escapes everyone else. If you were really concerned about life you''d be working to help out the underprivledged children in the ghettos, but instead you spend your time on CBS comment pages demanding people live their lives the way you think they should.
Fact is, women just don''t like anyone telling them whether they can or cannot have a baby and banning abortions is forcing us to have them whether we like it or not. And what''s with allowing pharmacists to not fill birth control prescriptions when you also ban abortions? If you don''t like filling the prescription as presented, get another job! I had to take birth control pills to control endometriosis, not to prevent pregnancy since I was infertile. So I would have to hunt down some pharmacist to give it to me? That means my reasons for taking it are his business? I don''t think so. I don''t feel like telling the pharmacist I would not violate his religious beliefs just so he can feel better about doing his job.
Posted by Zendigity at 06:44 PM : Dec 03, 2008 Ok, lets say the penalty should be the same as a person murdering an innocent child. All that I read on this blog are excuses for killing a child. I am very sorry that a high school girl has died from some butcher destroying a life, Or two for that matter. And, do you really believe that the pro-life advocates are not concerned about life, but rather control over your decisions? Posted by irmcvet971 at 02:24 PM : Dec 03, 2008 I guess I am a fascist if that means protecting an innocent baby from being murdered. Personally, I think people who are willing to look the other way (pro-choice) and allow abortions are truly cowards. To think that it is between a mother and her Doctor is a ridiculous statement. The baby is a human life serperate from the mother (DNA different). Can you not just admit that the unborn baby is a child (as proven by the SCIENTIFIC METHOD). Just because you want to believe others, doesn''t change the facts. You know facts, things that are actually true and can be proven. WHY CAN''T YOU GET THAT!
-Posted by tcandrews62 I use the term anti-choice because what motivates the "pro-life" movement isn''t their desire to stop abortions from happening, it''s their need to control the decisions and choices of other people through force...very far from free will indeed. I don''t think anyone''s Pro-Abortion, rather they simply believe that government''s power shouldn''t be such that people aren''t able to make decisions which affect their own health and wellbeing. BTW- I think it''s disgusting that you don''t even have enough strength in your convictions to express your own opinion on what would be an adequate prison sentence for a woman who has an abortion; instead leave it to "government" to decide; that''s just pathetic. Please try having a backbone before you try having an opinion.
I can still remember this young girl in my Senior Class in High School.. We had been friends our entire life as she grew up near me and we played as kids. Her Parents were very Religious People and were extremely strick with her, so much so that she had to sneak out to go to Football games. She turns up with child that winter and didn''t tell anyone... instead she drove with friends to a Near by City for a Back Ally Abortion... they weren''t legal then. Now she is dead and so many were like her. For any of you fascist, and you are fascist, to think YOU are going to stop some scared Teenager or desperate housewife from obtaining an Abortion is simply ignoring fact and truth. All you will do is drive them back into the allies to die... We need, as a country, to look at ways to prevent unwanted children and ways to prevent Abortion. Today a woman can take the Morning After Pill and has several other options available for slip ups and when Nature overrules common sense. Let''s make those more available to young women and put these Control Freaks where they belong, in the dust of history. Bottom line thought the choice must remain with the Woman and the Doctor.
"To all the Anti-Choice people: I have one question...How much prison time would you suggest a woman receive for having an abortion"? Posted by Zendigity at 11:14 AM : Dec 03, 2008 Why do you use the term "anti-choice"? You either oppose abortion (not choice) or support its'' practice. Is the term "choice" used to make this practice appear more humane? It is taking a life any way you want to color it. You can make all of the excuses, non-threatoning words (choice as opposed to abortion), or blame the Christians all you want. However, atleast man-up and admit the deed that you support. That is the killing of an unborn child upto and including the 9th month of pregnancy (95% for personal convenience). Please forget the talk about back alley abortions for they are as wrong as a society that deems it ok to kill babies. Thats it in a wrap. Our society, since 1973 has slipped into a destructive mindset about the sanctity of life and the results are quite noticeable. And to answer your question, all of those involved in the process of killing an unborn child should be prosecuted. The punishment, I''ll leave that to the government. My only point is that those responsible and support abortion realize what it is that they are doing. And that is of course, killing an innocent child with seperate DNA within the womb of women.
5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.
4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."
3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.
2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.
1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.
10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.
9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.
8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.
7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don''t even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!
6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.
To all the Anti-Choice people: I have one question...How much prison time would you suggest a woman receive for having an abortion? Should she receive 1 year, 5? Since abortion is "murder" should she get life; maybe the death penalty? Wouldn''t that make it pretty ironic to call yourself "pro-life"
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Posted by Zendigity at 09:18 AM : Dec 04, 2008
I have no desire to control your thoughts or personal actions effecting yourself. I do, however, think that it is wrong for a person who is pregnant to have the ability to kill the baby as if disregarding an old purse or pair of shoes. This is a child for which we are talking. I guess to you I am warped for believing in protecting life. And yes I have been involved in community service.
In your state of mind, terminating babies as a convenience to the mother or population control should be the norm. What a truly warped sense of thinking! Hint!, don''t ever tell your children you feel this way, you will only devalue them!
"Fact is, women just don''''t like anyone telling them whether they can or cannot have a baby and banning abortions is forcing us to have them whether we like it or not".
Posted by catlady1412 at 09:11 AM : Dec 04, 2008
What a very selfish statement!
Yes, to use you as the model of a typical anti-choice individual, I''d say you''re far more fixated on the desire to control than you are concerned about life. You demand that everyone subscribe to your warped point of view as though you have some kind of understanding that escapes everyone else. If you were really concerned about life you''d be working to help out the underprivledged children in the ghettos, but instead you spend your time on CBS comment pages demanding people live their lives the way you think they should.
Ok, lets say the penalty should be the same as a person murdering an innocent child.
All that I read on this blog are excuses for killing a child. I am very sorry that a high school girl has died from some butcher destroying a life, Or two for that matter.
And, do you really believe that the pro-life advocates are not concerned about life, but rather control over your decisions?
Posted by irmcvet971 at 02:24 PM : Dec 03, 2008
I guess I am a fascist if that means protecting an innocent baby from being murdered.
Personally, I think people who are willing to look the other way (pro-choice) and allow abortions are truly cowards. To think that it is between a mother and her Doctor is a ridiculous statement. The baby is a human life serperate from the mother (DNA different).
Can you not just admit that the unborn baby is a child (as proven by the SCIENTIFIC METHOD). Just because you want to believe others, doesn''t change the facts. You know facts, things that are actually true and can be proven.
WHY CAN''T YOU GET THAT!
I use the term anti-choice because what motivates the "pro-life" movement isn''t their desire to stop abortions from happening, it''s their need to control the decisions and choices of other people through force...very far from free will indeed.
I don''t think anyone''s Pro-Abortion, rather they simply believe that government''s power shouldn''t be such that people aren''t able to make decisions which affect their own health and wellbeing.
BTW- I think it''s disgusting that you don''t even have enough strength in your convictions to express your own opinion on what would be an adequate prison sentence for a woman who has an abortion; instead leave it to "government" to decide; that''s just pathetic.
Please try having a backbone before you try having an opinion.
Posted by tcandrews62 at 12:33 PM : Dec 03, 2008
I can still remember this young girl in my Senior Class in High School.. We had been friends our entire life as she grew up near me and we played as kids. Her Parents were very Religious People and were extremely strick with her, so much so that she had to sneak out to go to Football games. She turns up with child that winter and didn''t tell anyone... instead she drove with friends to a Near by City for a Back Ally Abortion... they weren''t legal then. Now she is dead and so many were like her. For any of you fascist, and you are fascist, to think YOU are going to stop some scared Teenager or desperate housewife from obtaining an Abortion is simply ignoring fact and truth. All you will do is drive them back into the allies to die... We need, as a country, to look at ways to prevent unwanted children and ways to prevent Abortion. Today a woman can take the Morning After Pill and has several other options available for slip ups and when Nature overrules common sense. Let''s make those more available to young women and put these Control Freaks where they belong, in the dust of history. Bottom line thought the choice must remain with the Woman and the Doctor.
Posted by Zendigity at 11:14 AM : Dec 03, 2008
Why do you use the term "anti-choice"? You either oppose abortion (not choice) or support its'' practice. Is the term "choice" used to make this practice appear more humane?
It is taking a life any way you want to color it. You can make all of the excuses, non-threatoning words (choice as opposed to abortion), or blame the Christians all you want. However, atleast man-up and admit the deed that you support. That is the killing of an unborn child upto and including the 9th month of pregnancy (95% for personal convenience).
Please forget the talk about back alley abortions for they are as wrong as a society that deems it ok to kill babies.
Thats it in a wrap. Our society, since 1973 has slipped into a destructive mindset about the sanctity of life and the results are quite noticeable.
And to answer your question, all of those involved in the process of killing an unborn child should be prosecuted. The punishment, I''ll leave that to the government. My only point is that those responsible and support abortion realize what it is that they are doing. And that is of course, killing an innocent child with seperate DNA within the womb of women.
5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically
established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing
dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is
a few generations old.
4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who
share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in
an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and
"loving."
3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince
you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all
the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.
2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers.
You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining
99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.
1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible,
Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.
10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions,
but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.
9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other
life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.
8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.
7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah,
but you don''t even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of
Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua"
including women, children, and trees!
6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with
women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary,
who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended
into the sky.