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- Oh, why can''''t Palin be more appealing to America''''s elite?
Posted by hotwitch at 04:51 PM : Sep 13, 2008
Has very little to do with elitism, but everything to do with hypocrisy and lies. Conservative, moderate or liberal, Americans deserve better than that. - Reply to this comment
- They couldn''''t hide the elitism in the last piece . . .
Posted by SamTheTVCat at 04:49 PM : Sep 13, 2008
Sam, before Hillary lost in the primaries, you seemed like a reasonable person. Now you just sound like a shrill shill ''a la Rowdy''.
You are even imitating her prediliction for taking quotes out of context to change their meaning. I used to expect better from you. - Reply to this comment
- Another poll to consider from ABC:
White women have moved from 50-42 percent in Obama''s favor before the conventions to 53-41 percent for McCain now, a 20-point shift in the margin that''s one of the single biggest post-convention changes in voter preferences.
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Meaning that the position put forth in this piece isn''t the majority view held by white women - women in the media who are used to being the voice of a certain group, aren''t any longer.
The ''average'' white woman is on the other side of the issue, but these pieces don''t really acknowledge that shift (?)
Why AREN''T women in the media like the rest of us? - Reply to this comment
- ---"CYA"---
Posted by incog-nito
So none of you really do have anything to bring to the table . . . and yet you all are so arrogant.
Later! - Reply to this comment
- LOL my post must have somehow validated your long-cherished notions.
You really should get yourself some friends. CYA - Reply to this comment
- ---"SamTheTVCat: Don''t you have anything better to do?"---
Posted by incog-nito
Why are my posts making you anxious such that you don''t have anything better to add? That seems to be a Dem trait . . . - Reply to this comment
- SamTheTVCat: Don''t you have anything better to do?
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- From an AP poll:
Fully 47 percent say Obama lacks the proper experience %u2014 an even worse reading than the 36 percent who had the same criticism about McCain running mate Sarah Palin, serving her second year as Alaska governor after being a small-town mayor.
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Here''s maybe an example of why people come away feeling like the media''s out of touch - because pieces like this are trying to make the case that Palin''s ''inexperienced'' to a group of people who by a margin of 11% think that more of Obama.
Isn''t it logical to attribute the discrepancy to the media thinking they''re ''smarter'' than us and that therefore they''re trying to ''educate'' us?
I''m not sure what''s the cause (?) - Reply to this comment
- ---"He is not quilfied he even said so himself, Yeah just a few years ago. Look it up."---
Posted by tickygoo
Yeah, after he flip-flopped on FISA independents ran away from him in droves. And don''t most independents actually think Palin''s more qualified to be CIC than him?
McCain/Palin 08!
PS Sorry I called you names - I''ve been kind of snarky today :( - Reply to this comment
- PS Or maybe I''m the angry harpie after following this campaign so closely with Dems treating Sarah Palin like an animal.
Maybe catty hags is a better term! :p - Reply to this comment
- pt 1
---"This column was written by Katha Pollitt.
John McCain chose the supremely under-qualified Sarah Palin as his running mate partly because she is a woman."---
You know what else I''m about fed up to her with are these writers who make their LIVING off in-depth analysis, concepts and the written word not having anything else to bring to the table except trashing Sarah.
I have yet to see a piece by a woman that touches upon any internal sense that they''re being tugged in two directions, that they are stymied by this new twist on feminism, that they actually SEE in Barack that he passed over a woman that would have provided him with an 8% cushion over McCain, that he calls women ''sweetie'', that he talks pay parity but doesn''t practice it in real life, that they realize that casting a vote for a Democrat means their potentially closing the door to another female possibly making it to the Executive Level for another 25 years (because Hillary could become incapacitated in the next 8 years, or even Bill which might compromise her viability). - Reply to this comment
- pt 2
What about factoring in that a politician''s personal beliefs aren''t the only factor affecting policy and that the top of the ticket factors in as well as who''s in Congress as well as what issues are going to take priority? What about factoring in that the Dem controlled Congress would have to vote to appoint the next US Supreme Court justice and that Palin has already compromised by agreeing that abortion could be determined by States rights.
And THEN make the Dem case for why women ought to vote for Barack over McCain/Palin within that context. Because that''s what you''re up against. The more I see other women just lashing out at Palin with insults and bashing the more I just think that you can''t make your case and that maybe it''s a whole lot cooler to be a female and be Repub.
Who wants to associate with a pack of angry harpies?
McCain/Palin 08! - Reply to this comment
- Posted by tickygoo
I''m voting for McCain/Palin you moron! Put down the crystal meth! - Reply to this comment
- I can''t believe people have such a low opinion of themselves they would buy eyeglasses to copy this insane, talking in tongue, six college quitting, lying, bridge to nowhere money keeping Caribou Barbie. Who''d want to look like her anyway, she is not a beauty queen by a long shot, and seems to me morphing into an evil looking witch type.
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- Sam the tb cat.. yOu are such a smart person.
I am sure in your own mind you are so right. Where does all your hate come from? You hate this gal from Ak. You believe all the stuff your read, but you read only stuff you agree with. Did it ever acure to you that your Man O. Does not have the answers? Hey check out for your self, (not by what some one writes to make you feel so cozy good)How he got young people to do his fighting in Chicago. You really want this man with NO EXPERANCE TO LEAD THIS COUNTRy? Name one way he is qualifyed? ONe! This may turn into a black and white thing. A man, women thing. WE need to all be prepared for the worse.. IF obama does not get in, What will he cry and turn all the black people against everyone else. Tell you what he better not. He is not a man that brings change, he is a whinny baby. Lets see what he does when he loses. Whine? Blame the white man. Blame the gal from AK. He is not quilfied he even said so himself, Yeah just a few years ago. Look it up.
Oh well you all believe what CBS... NBC tells you.
Well you be one that starts a fire, USA will never be the same. no matter who wins.
I am sicken by all you hateful people. Dang can''t you even see what you guys look like. HAters.
You hate Palin. Why? Cuz you man looks stupid next to her? - Reply to this comment
"But we all know Republican doctrine is `do as I say and not as I do!`. Republicans are special, Republicans are exempt, Republicans are above the Law, the Rules don`t apply to Republicans only to the rest of America! LOL"
Posted by tbweb at 09:56 PM : Sep 13, 2008
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Isn''t that the truth!
I honestly think that this strange "mindset" derives from the overtly religious orientation of the majority of Republicans.
Fundamentalist Christians have the attitude that their religious beliefs are totally "off limits" and should never be questioned - their beliefs MUST be "respected" by everybody else; it''s not a request, but an outright demand.
Because their religious agendas motivate their political choices, they further demand that neither their religious nor, by extension, their political assertions ever be challenged.
Doing so is heresy!
You can''t love God or Country if you criticize the Republicans or their agenda or their methods or motives. It''s just unpatriotic, un-American, and blasphemously anti-God.- Reply to this comment
- The snowmobiles, the moose burgers, the guns, the hair, the glasses, Oh my !!! The left-wing feminists have re-emerged bringing questions of Palin dripping with self-hatred and classism. Oh, why can''t Palin be more appealing to America''s elite?
Posted by hotwitch at 04:51 PM : Sep 13, 2008
Oh, but she is and does appeal to America''s elite - McCain picked her. - Reply to this comment
- You know what''s heartbreaking for me is that I understand the sense of like that for a Dem like me to cross the aisle to realize my dream, that maybe I''m working against the dream of somebody else in this historic election. I GET that, and I''m really sorry that it''s come down to that.
What else can I say . . . - Reply to this comment
- `If there were an Olympics for hypocrisy, the Republican Party would have more gold medals than Michael Phelps.`
Exactly! It was Sen. John McCain himself who attacked Sen. Hillary Clinton`s Health Care Plan as `putting lipstick on a pig`! But we all know Republican doctrine is `do as I say and not as I do!`. Republicans are special, Republicans are exempt, Republicans are above the Law, the Rules don`t apply to Republicans only to the rest of America! LOL - Reply to this comment
- PS And by the way I did in fact vote for Barack over Hillary in the primaries because I really didn''t believe a person''s color or gender mattered in how they carried out their job. Watching him pass over Hillary when it would have enhanced his ability to win made it obvious to me that he wasn''t as open to me as I was to him.
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