Comments on: Obama’s Head Is In The Sand

National Review: Ill. Senator Has Left Iraq More Cemented In His Ill-Advised Positions Than Ever

[jon2012-2009]

Iraq was much more stable and didn''''t cost America a dime back then. 4,124 Americans were alive who are NOT now. How anyone can call the Iraq debacle a success is flabbergasting.
Posted by superdem at 10:22 AM : Jul 23, 2008

It''s kind of insane. How do you argue with people whose sanity is questionable? The best I can figure out is they think Iraq has prevented further attacks on U.S. soil after 9/11. This line of thinking sounds ad hoc because they offer no proof and discounts the effectiveness of our DHS and the value of going after al-Qaeda in Afghanistan.

[jon2012-2009]

where is mr. hegseth getting his information?
Posted by justsane at 11:24 AM : Jul 23, 2008

Where does NRO get its information? They say liberals are liars too but I have yet to see a liberal news media that lies with such ease.

[justsane-2009]

hegseth sez: obama met with iraqi leaders, maliki included, who told him that his withdrawal timetable would be "disasterous". and yet...

Here is Maliki''s statement, delivered as Obama''s visit to the region was beginning:

"Whoever is thinking about the shorter term [for withdrawal] is closer to reality. Artificially extending the stay of U.S. troops would cause problems.... As soon as possible, as far as we''re concerned... Those who operate on the premise of short time periods in Iraq today are being more realistic.... Artificially prolonging the tenure of US troops in Iraq would cause problems. U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama talks about 16 months. That, we think, would be the right timeframe for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes." July 19 interview with the German magazine Der Spiegel

where is mr. hegseth getting his information?

[old300d]

I can understand how people in the middle east could hate us for leaving S.H. in power after the first war. Then he kept causing more trouble sending money openly to terriorists in Gaza among other things. He kept messing up and we had to correct the mistake we made leaving him in power after the first war.

The way we did it was wrong but it was the right thing to do.

We are still paying for mistakes made by Bust 1.

[old300d]

Ted Kennedy was asked during the first gulf was what he thought the out come should be.

He said he thought we should put a democratic govt in place.

When did the democrats flip flop on doing that ?

[old300d]

When I listen to Obama explain his position on the surge I think I am hearing GWB explain all his mistakes ! ! !

4 more years of a president that can''t admit mistakes ! ! !

[superdem]

At least 80% of the American people hate the Iraq war, and know it was Bush''s plan to occupy an oil-rich arab nation too weak to resist. We didn''t know how horrendously violent the resistance could be, since nothing like it was ever seen during Saddam''s rule. Iraq was much more stable and didn''t cost America a dime back then. 4,124 Americans were alive who are NOT now. How anyone can call the Iraq debacle a success is flabbergasting. McCain and the Republicans in Congress must be sent packing.

[old300d]

1. the both talk to us like preachers.

2. they both say "ta" instead of "to".

3. they both are the ones that will bring us the big change.

4. they both can not admit when they are WRONG ! ! !

Obama = Bush ! ! !

[notblue]

McVet, "who actually attacked us" and what specific country do they represent? Please tell us why when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor we landed on the beaches of Normandy? France didn''t attack us, was that a lie? Germany didn''t attack us why didn''t we attack Japan first?

[grumpas]

It would be nice if this bunch of clueless lunatics (Bush and Co) had any remote idea how to fight terrorism????? Once more guys. Terrorism is a clandestine group of people with the same fanatical ideology! They are freelance and don''t owe their allegiance to any country just a ideology. It isn''t a country! You are never going to succeed in fighting terrorism until you get the facts through your thick heads! Bush didn''t bother going after the people responsible for 9/11. They are still roaming the earth. But used the incident to start wars that are only created terrorists! McCain has the same clueless ideology Bush has had for 71/2 years now. He is going down the same well trodden path that leads to nowhere! I won''t be voting for him!

[bmadeline-2009]

You right wingers can''t stand for people to finally wake up to the fact that you and your pres are idiots! I''m loving every minute of it. What a disgusting bunch of morons.

[mcvet]

Obama has refused to see so that the American public become more aware of it . In the end , just like the deal with rev. wright , Obama will be FORCED to abandon his position any way because the truth will always come out , and at that time , his campaign will be over , American will be saved another incompetent presidency and another Vietnam-type failure in both Iraq and Afganishtan ...

Posted by alohaone1 at 01:11 AM : Jul 23, 2008

LOL YOU are ONE fascist who needs to stay away from the Kool Aid Sparky! IRAQ was a LIE! IT was based on a LIE, was invaded NOT because of any Weapons or connection to our enemy but because a VERY Incompetent Arrogant Leader THOUGHT we MIGHT have to fight Saddam SOMEDAY. That''s what we NOW know. Now MOST intelligent people would say we need to address the People who ACTUALLY DID attack us and let the folks of Iraq do what all people must do... govern themselves. Now lets stand... let Shooter hear ya!! SIEG HEIL BUSH

[mcvet]

Contrary to what CBS, NBC, ABC want you to believe, BHO is not quite the president yet, and in spite of there efforts probably won''''t be.

Posted by Gunfighter51 at 06:46 AM : Jul 23, 2008

ROFLMAO I don''t know where you live but EVERYWHERE I travel you are about as dead wrong as it''s possible to get. Impressive or Statesman are two words I hear about him... McSame? What did HE just say, is what people say. Can you believe he doesn''t know that?? Seriously, even if you DO NOT take off the Swastika, you can''t be serious?? REALLY?? SIEG HEIL BUSH

[gunfighter51]

Finally some objective reporting.

Does anyone really know what this guy is going to do? He says one thing to the kooks and another to the center, and without his speech writer, just looks lost.

The way it''s being reported, BHO has just saved the middle east from GW by doing the same thing GW was planning to do.

Contrary to what CBS, NBC, ABC want you to believe, BHO is not quite the president yet, and in spite of there efforts probably won''t be.

[bluestardad]

NRO

SORRY YOU FEEL SO BAD

HAVE YOUR DUEL PASSPORT HOLDING AIPAC MEMBERS AN THE KOOL AID DRINKING BUSHIT SLAVES GO SERVE IN IRAQ!

[alohaone1]

good job !...at least , finally someone who is willing to see the truths . I do not have any respect for Obama . He has shown that he is shallow and untruthful and stubborn beyond description . It is like spitting in the face of the Generals and troops in Iraq. In twisting his word around and fail to acknowledge what really happened there and by sticking to his ill-advised position after seeing the result , Barrack has done a dis-service to all our troops and especially to the great General Patreaus , without whom , it is surely another Vietnam again. BArrack has dug his own hole . He can not get out of it now . I hope John Mc Cain keep pounding on the facts that Obama has refused to see so that the American public become more aware of it . In the end , just like the deal with rev. wright , Obama will be FORCED to abandon his position any way because the truth will always come out , and at that time , his campaign will be over , American will be saved another incompetent presidency and another Vietnam-type failure in both Iraq and Afganishtan ...

[aakalan]

I keep forgetting.

I keep vowing to avoid this site, to avoid those religious Neo-Cons who are only interested in death and conquest in support of Israel, not the US.

You know they hate Obama because he can see that the "Emperor''s new clothes" are non-existent. They hate him because he had the intelligence and insight, from day one, to claim that we were fighting the wrong war and that the malefactors who brought us 9/11 would get away scot-free.

And he committed the ultimate sin: he was right.

I can''t believe that CBS sponsors NRO here. It must be their version of political correctness.

[ausus-2009]

Element51,

How many troops would it have taken to catch Bin Laden? How long would it have taken? What if a full commitment had been unsuccessful? Would we now be saying "let''s get out of Afghanistan?"

[element51]

ausus....The answer to your question is simple. We should have gone into Afghanistan after Ben Laden and chased him till we caught him. But the bush people knew that the nation was wanting someone punished for what happened on 9-11 and they used that to invade Iraq while here at home people were trying to understand what was happening. They lied to us while we were still in shock and by the time we woke up it was to late. See? Simple.

[element51]

Se4ingtruth.....I must say you are posted on the right thread. You are another one of those cowardly little toads who slightly change someone elses screen name and then post the opposite of what they normally post hoping that you can fool someone. What a coward you are. You should be ashamed of yourself. Then you post the same old lie that Obama is a muslim. Sorry charlie but we''ve heard that over and over so try to find another lie to post. It is unpatriotic bozos like you that hate America. Patriotic Americans prize the truth and are willing to die for it. But you are a pathetic excuse for a human being. Get your own screen name and leave SearingTruth alone. He is a great American!