Comments on: McCain's Doublespeak

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[clestes-2009]

Fourth, Israel is a sitting duck.

Just the THOUGHT of a McCain presidency is enough to make sensible people have nightmares.

This is the last gasp of the old ***. Time for him to retire and live off Cindy''s money and be with his kids and grandkids, and great grandkids.

[clestes-2009]

Furthermore, my biggest problem and I have many, with the old fossil is his desire to attack Iran.

The reason attacking Iran is NOT going to happen is the hardline resistence from the Pentagon, the Sec of Defense dept and the State dept.

Robt Gates, the Sec of Defense, Mike Muellen the chairman of the Joint chiefs and Condi Rice, Sec of State are ALL ADAMANTLY OPPOSED to attacking Iran.

Why? Because they see nothing positive and a lot of serious negatives to come of it.

First off, there is no reason for it. The latest NIE says Iran has no nuclear weapon program since 2003. They have never backed away from that claim.

Second, the already rocky economy would take a nose dive to depths never before seen. With oil at better than $200 a barrel and gas over $7.00 a gallon, businesses would go belly up and unemployment would skirocket. Food and heating would be prohibitedly expensive and there could easily be riots in the streets by people out of work, out of money and desperate. It would the 1930''s shanty towns all over again.

Third, the cost in US troop lives would be high. It is easeily conceivable that the Shiite majority in power would turn on the US troops and they would have to fight their way out of Baghdad taking heavy casualities. That does not even count the cost in civilians lives or the destruction of what little infrastructure build up there has been.

[samthetvcat]

PS Oops, clestes - I meant that yeah I totally agree with your assessment, but that wow I don''t know what to do when it comes to actually picking between the two of them :)

[samthetvcat]

---"As I said, Obama may not be liked, but at least he has realistic ideas and offers details of his plans.

Fossil John just throws out ideas that make no sense, don''t stand up to scrunity"---

Posted by clestes

Yeah, that basically sums up the choices doesn''t it? Wow, I don''t know . . .

[clestes-2009]

Furthermore, what few details fossil John offers on his ideas are just plain laughable.

My current favorite is how he is going to balance the budget by winning the war in Iraq in 2013. Huh?????

First of all, how can any predict the outcome of a war 4 YEARS in advance? There are any number of scenarios that could happen that would scuddle that plan between now and then. What other plans are there if that doesn''t work out?

Second, what is going to happen between now and then??

I mean, he is so off base and illogical and unrealistic that anyone listening to him has NOTHING to grasp or build on.

As I said, Obama may not be liked, but at least he has realistic ideas and offers details of his plans.

Fossil John just throws out ideas that make no sense, don''t stand up to scrunity and offer no hope.

This election is over.

[wardoglrs]

Robert Gordon and James Kvaal.
I am impressed with this article from the Neo Con CBS''
You two better be careful you speak the truth and truth in the media is not exceptionable.Thanks for your straight talk views....

[samthetvcat]

The labels are just kind of ''terms of art'', aren''t they?

When Barack double-speaks, it''s to hold the positions of two different constituencies. Like he''s committed to getting out of Iraq within 16 months AND in the exact same breath he''s also warning that he''s not at all committed to getting out of Iraq within 16 months, which appeals to the anti-war crowd (''far left'') AND the ''get out with dignity crowd'' (''centrist''). Most of our minds don''t work that way - mine doesn''t - so the danger is in our tendency to hear what we want to hear and discount the contradiction.

With McCain, what''s being called ''doublespeak'' such as his claim that he can cut spending without raising taxes AND balance the budget isn''t intended to appeal to two separate groups - he''s just making a pie-in-the-sky overoptimistic overpromise. Everybody wishes for that ideal, but when confronted with the nitty gritty reality knows that''s not really achievable. I think in Magoo''s case, he''s really just not spending a lot of time in the weeds cross-checking A with B.

Barack''s the more slippery ''double-talker'' because how do you really debunk his double-talk? How do you guard yourself against falling into the trap of only hearing what you want to hear when he limits his double-talk to ones that can''t be debunked with reality? With Magoo all you do is cite facts.

So, I guess in conclusion yeah they''re both politicking, but wow I sure see Barack as a WAY more dangerous political animal . . .

[briannorwood]

clestes:

Couldn''t agree with you more. McCain is such a pathetic little figure. I am quite amazed that this is the best the GOP could cough up this time.

And to call McCain''s campaign anemic is an understatement. I can only imagine what he''ll look like when he has to stand side-by-side during the upcoming debates. The difference will be dramatic.

[clestes-2009]

I think the years as a POW are starting to take their toll. He is befuddled, confused, vindictive, belligerant and can''t even control his campaign message or direct his campaign which is full of competing advisors each of which have his ear on a different day.

What does THAT say about controlling WH policies??

No matter how one feels about Obama, he has a message, he stays on focus, his campaign runs like a well oil machine and there are no temper tantrums.

This election is over. It was over when fossil John was picked as the rep nominee and Obama beat out Hillary. If the rep''s had picked a different nominee, it might have been more of a race, but the only question is how big a blowout will it be.

[kommoncents-2009]

Oh, yeah, and Obama has all the perfect solutions... you liberals make me laugh. Pathetic.