Comments on: Is Obama Following Bush On Iraq?

National Review Online: Democrat's Policy Seems To Be Strikingly Similar To The Status Quo

[samthetvcat]

omg, the GOP are so lame - why on earth you can''t seem to capitalize on Barack being equally lame is a puzzle. Don''t you have anything else other than taking the opponent''s strongest argument and turning it on him and finding evidence to bolster the claim? Trying to pull a fast one on the public isn''t working for Barack and he''s still winning, so why would you think it would work for you?

Why don''t you just point out the truth about Barack? That he''s trying to hold several different positions simultaneously, and when that''s not possible he takes as far-right a position as he can such that it''s just left of McCain. And that he''s willing to ''take his lumps'' from his supporters because we, unlike the powers that be, don''t have the power to stand in his way of getting what he wants which is power.

Because then the argument then becomes if the two candidates are virtually the same then why not go for the vet to spearhead the redeployment?

The hatred for you GOPigs is so intense, people can already tell Barack''s a flip-flopping phony but cling to him anyway because you pigs keep acting greasy with you''re skeevy ''strategy''. And Barack knows that - you all need to make people feel like McCain can offer an alternative of truth.

Then again, maybe that argument really can''t be made . . .

[aakalan]

This article is not just disingenuous. It''s an outright lie. Shame on you, NRO.

Obama has not changed his position at all. At more than one debate he stated that he would adjust his withdrawal plans based on the situation on the ground.

So what''s new here? Nothing. Nothing at all. It''s the same he''s been saying all along.

But that doesn''t stop you from wrapping falsehoods in propaganda, does it? It never has.

This magazine, this site and this article are garbage.

[imnho]

I think its just a fact finding trip.(commonly called a junket or boodoggle).

I have no personnel objection to Obama doing a trip to Iraq. He is likely to have to alter his time table for withdrawl if things change in the middle east.

Bush has slready demostrated that not being willing to be open to aknowledge reality does not work very well.

[ubrew12]

Xlib said: "I do believe the dems were all for [the war]. " They voted under duress and made sure language was inserted making it ''a last resort''. Bush proceeded as if it was a first resort. McClellan voted against it: he was turned out of office. Daschle called out Bush on his hasty invasion, reminding him of the war resolution: he was turned out of office.

"As for obama being "confused" on how to end the war, here''s something-how about winning the d(*m war?? " If you think this war is going to go away, you''re as naive as I think you are.

Might doesn''t make right, it makes terrorists. Like you.

[nomorewars]

Obama is a candidate because people voted for him based upon his stated positions on the issues. If he changes his positions then we should be able to change our votes. Since he has little experience and is only a candidate based upon "talk" shouldn''''t we demand that he walks his talk or gives up being a candidate. Otherwise he is a fraud.

You speak the truth here.

That''s why I''m voting for chuck baldwin, mclame and nobama are two idiots with the same goal.

[verycold]

Barack took his very liberal position to win his party''s nomination. He had the upper hand since Hillary did support this war even though she says she never authorized force. So....Barack used that fact that he wasn''t in the US senate at the time and therefore he can only speculate if he would or would not have voted to use force. So once he got the nomination he can then quickly slide to the middle to assure those in the middle on this particular issue that he isn''t like his supporters and really does want the US to win this war. The crazy liberal left most assuredly wants us to lose so that Bush can look even worse. It is all about Bush/republicans not about the welfare of this country at all and it most certainly is not about caring for the troops. Barack has the crazy left in his pocket no matter what he says and does. He knows that. They are bagged even if he chooses to stay in Iraq for a 100 years. Those of us that supported the war are the ones he is seeking to assure that he won''t just pull the troops without understanding the dire consequences. I should say here that the ONLY two men that convinced me to support this war was Colin Powell, now an Obama supporter, and Bill Clinton, a forced Obama supporter. Bush never made the case to me since I never voted for him to begin with.

[wisepeace]

Obama is a candidate because people voted for him based upon his stated positions on the issues. If he changes his positions then we should be able to change our votes. Since he has little experience and is only a candidate based upon "talk" shouldn''t we demand that he walks his talk or gives up being a candidate. Otherwise he is a fraud.

[feelfree4u]

Re: "National Review Online: Democrat''s Policy Seems To Be Strikingly Similar To The Status Quo"

Now you''ve really done it. Now you have left me with little choice but to agree with the fascistic and criminal dead-brains at the National Review Online.

Thanks a lot Democrats.

[noloyalisti]

We should get the heck out ASAP. We have no business there and we won a few days after we invaded. After that we lost the Iraqi people (and killed many of them needlessly). In truth, we invaded an unarmed country and destroyed it. We owe them major restitution like Germany had to pay after WWI.

[xlib]

ubrew12-so just who are "many of us"??? I do believe the dems were all for it. As for obama being "confused" on how to end the war, here''s something-how about winning the d(*m war?? As for Bush starting the war, sweetie pie, Congress was for it and gave the OK. Congress is still funding the war. I can see the way things will be. The empty suit will scr$w up and you and other leemings will make excuse after excuse.

[xlib]

Is the empty suit following Bush on Iraq?? Well, that would depend on the group he''s talking or pandering to. If it''s a group that he, or his handlers, think lean that way, You BETCHA!! The empty suit will say and do anything that soros wants him to.

[sandyu73]

Three men - a Canadian farmer, Osama bin Laden and a Texas Gentleman are all walking together one day.

They come across a lantern and a Genie pops out of it. ''I will give each of you one wish, which is three wishes in total'', says the Genie.

The Canadian says, ''I am a farmer and my son will also farm. I want the land to be forever fertile in Canada''

POOF!
With the blink of the Genie''s eye, the land in Canada was forever fertile for farming.

Osama was amazed, so he said, ''I want a wall around Afghanistan, Palestine, Iraq and Iran so that no infidels, Americans or Canadians can come into our precious land.''

POOF!
Again, with the blink of the Genie''s eye, there was a huge wall around those countries.

The Texan says, ''I am very curious. Please tell me more about this wall.''

The Genie explains, ''Well, it''s about 5,000 feet high, 5oo feet thick and completely surrounds the countries. Nothing can get in or out; it''s virtually impenetrable.''

The Texan sits down on his Harley, cracks a beer, lites a cigar, smiles and says, ''Fill it with water.''

[tbweb]

Is Obama Following Bush On Iraq?

Obama is following Bush on funding Faith based initiatives, so who really knows! I didn''t think Obama would follow Bush on anything but he has already surprised me. It can''t be dismissed. But Iraq now seems to be setting its own timetable and path for U.S. withdrawal beyond the control of U.S. leaders upsetting the apple cart!

[ubrew12]

Obama would never have invaded Iraq in the first place. The reason so many of us warned for caution on entry into the war was because its easier to start a war than end it. If Obama is confused about how to end the war, he''s entitled to be confused. Bush was never confused when he started it, and some people confuse that with ''leadership''.