Comments on: The Obama Myth Exposed?

National Review Online: His Now Apparent Weaknesses May Prove Debilitating

[brianbwb-2009]

Posted by patriot12436

Oh yeah, and also I don''t drink alcohol, and I am straight.

[brianbwb-2009]

Posted by patriot12436

Nahhh, I couldn''t run, I inhaled, and enjoyed it. I also had s*exual relations with that woman, and that one and that one, in fact, many of the world''s most beautiful women. And I like broccoli, with a Edam cheese and sauteed onion garlic sauce.

Did I mention I think globalization sucks, because there are still slave labor countries? And I smoke blended tobacco in a pipe, and Cuban cigars? Not to mention I am a (gasp!) musician, so I''ll never be a millionaire...; )

[patriot12436]

brianbwb
Perhaps i agreed with posts and did not know the posters were racists. Even racists can make comments i agree with. But i do appreciate your advice and the fact that you will always answer honestly. Maybe if you were running i would be more inclined to vote for a black candidate. You always come across as knowledgeable and in a reasonable manner.

[brianbwb-2009]

"I agree with your post about obama and hope he will foloow the course if elected. If he shows me i am wrong about him then i would support him totally in office. I think he is in as much danger from radical hate groups as from big business. But you are right, if they felt threatened he would be removed by them immediately without hesitation." Posted by patriot12436

Actually, I have posted several times that I think Mr. Obama is indeed just as beholden to the political cabal as the others, and cannot enact the sometimes radical steps necessart to turn America arould, at best he will be a tad to the left of Mrs. Clinton, but still firmly in the centrist band.

Having said that, I also believe that if we the people start the the necessary movements towards the heavy shifting, like targeted demonstrations, boycotts, etc., he will be much more inclined to support us than McSame, or even Mrs. Clinton would be.

[brianbwb-2009]

"Thanks for the advice, but could you elaborate." Posted by patriot12436

I cannot be exact, but a couple of times we have had discussions that started when I responded to a post where you would express agreement with another poster who was a well known virulent racist. Perhaps the nature of the poster was not readily apparent in the particular post you responded to, but some of us knew the original poster to be somewhat to the right of Mussolini, and when you expressed agreement, without explanation that it was the outcome that you agreed to, but not the reasoning, for some of us, it became a topic for debate.

[patriot12436]

brianbwb
I agree with your post about obama and hope he will foloow the course if elected. If he shows me i am wrong about him then i would support him totally in office. I think he is in as much danger from radical hate groups as from big business. But you are right, if they felt threatened he would be removed by them immediately without hesitation.

[patriot12436]

brianbwb
Thanks for the advice, but could you elaborate. What comments am i making that would be unsettling to other people ? I reread what i posted and didn''t see the reasoning behind it. I believe all races can have racist people. That is one of my concerns with obama.

[brianbwb-2009]

"What we the people really want to hear are how he would reign in the corporations that are running our government and media, implementation of single-payer healthcare, reigning in of inflation and financial predation, re-direction of our hegelian education system, and protection of our environment." Posted by endofbones

You must realize that if Mr. Obama actually confirmed that he would take action against such big money in the beginning, he would have been buried by that controlled media you refer to, and if he states confirmations in such things now that he is the nominee, know that if the big money interests couldn''t derail what would certainly become an unstoppable juggernaut of a campaign, they would simply kill him.

Think about it, if they could kill two Kennedy''s, a skinny n-word would be as nothing to them.

[brianbwb-2009]

"I think even when people disagree they should be able to discuss their views without name calling. I get called a racist because i do not support obama. It isn''''t about color but about his ideologies that i object to. But i will always respect your right to your opinion even when we don''''t agree." Posted by patriot12436

I personally believe you 100%, based on past exchanges. If I might offer a tip, many people here read the first sentence, then presume to know the entire content of your post, I myself have been fooled by it, only after pursuing it in depth with you has the true concern about underlying factors come out, and we have reached consensus several times this way.

Perhaps if you state the underlying concern first, then sum up, that might go down easier with those who would exchange information with you, and result in fewer misperceptions.

[endofbones]

I have watched almost all the democratic debates to date as well as followed and done intensive research of my own into Barack Obama and what he stands for and as of yet I have yet to find anything. He always talks with these excessively broad and vague generalizations without ever really addressing any firm issue.
What we the people really want to hear are how he would reign in the corporations that are running our government and media, implementation of single-payer healthcare, reigning in of inflation and financial predation, re-direction of our hegelian education system, and protection of our environment. I have not heard him really say anything on any of these issues.
Perhaps the best thing about Barack Obama was his preacher Jeramiah Jackson- how could i say this? Go on pbs and see the real interview with mr jackson on bill moyers journal.

Now obama is refusing to take public financing which sets caps on how much you can spend in an election (he has been funded by jp morgan, citigroup, chase manhattan, excelon, morgan stanely)now he does not want to have public debates at cityhalls. Instead he wants to have the corporate run televised debates that never ever have any really controversial or important questions.

We the people are being given an psuedoelection with psuedochoices there is no real canidate in this election who represents americans interests, just 2 individuals who are being funded by the same corporate slimeballs and who are both pushing the same agenda.

[patriot12436]

it_oldtimer
You call me naive ? Yet you will support a party just because you belong to it, not because you agree with it. I think that is naive.

[patriot12436]

element51
I think even when people disagree they should be able to discuss their views without name calling. I get called a racist because i do not support obama. It isn''t about color but about his ideologies that i object to. But i will always respect your right to your opinion even when we don''t agree.

[patriot12436]

Brianbwb
I think osama ben laden would get a higher approval rating than bush. If obama is elected i hope you are right about his loyalties. I do not support the man but i also wish him no ill will unless he proves to be a traitor to our country.

[brianbwb-2009]

Results of a CNN poll...

"Optimism about a new president is broad. About two-thirds of those surveyed in France, Spain, Germany, Nigeria, South Africa and Tanzania predict U.S. foreign policy will improve after the inauguration. In 20 nations, more say U.S. foreign policy will change for the better than for the worse.

Only in Jordan, Pakistan, Egypt and Lebanon were people inclined to predict a turn for the worse.

In most countries, Obama is also more trusted than President Bush. The contrast was particularly sharp in Europe, where Bush has been making a farewell tour this week. In France, where he visits today, 13% say they have "a lot" or some confidence in Bush to do the right thing. Six times as many, 84%, say that of Obama"

[brianbwb-2009]

"Obama is a socialist who would really like to be king of the world. He''''ll be exposed for what he really is, and soundly defeated." Posted by smcoh326

News flash, socialists don''t believe in kings, it is against the core principles of the philosophy.

[element51]

patriot12436...It isn''t so much that I don''t believe everything about Obama it is simply that there is not sufficient proof that he has done all the things he has been accused of. As far as his church affiliation goes I don''t see that as a disqualifying issue. Obama did not make any of those statements and many times I have heard people say things that I did not call them on but thought they were full of it. I know enough about McCain to know that he is a man who has no charaacter. His treatment of his first wife and his childrens mother shows no character. His involvement in the keeting 5 is another issue where he demonstrates that he is not to be trusted. His flip flops on issues, his temper frigtens me...this guy would have his finger on the button. He will be appointing 4 members to the FED board and at least two supreme court justices. His ties to lobbiest are very strong and that is a problem. But since I fall into the same catagory as you and McVet I will side with him but agree to desagree with you. It''s nice to do this without the name calling and hatred.

[brianbwb-2009]

I get a distinct sense of deja-vu reading this article, seems it was published once Mr. Obama began to emerge as a viable candidate, and it seems that the result will be the same, the neocon-derthals will try to drag out the same boogie men that failed to sway the public from Mr. Obama the first time, indeed, many may very well be so disgusted at the Republican tactics that they will vote for Mr. Obama out of spite.

Even more dangerous, when the McSame/Bush klan sees it is not working, expect to see them let the n-word repeatedly "slip" from the mouths of their supporters, which they will then repeatedly disclaim, with a smile and a wink.

When that one fails, then sometine aroung mid September, or early October, expect another "terrorist" attack to occur on US soil.

[it_oldtimer]

"I do not believe and have never belonged o a political party. I think the issues and what the candidates offer is what we should vote for. Voting for a party irregardless of what they represnt is irresponsible in my opinion." ~ Posted by patriot12436

How naive. People generally support most (if not always all) of the individual "planks" in their party''s political "platform". There''s nothing at all irresponsible about that.

Candidates rely on their respective party platforms as a political blueprint, or road map.

I think that voting for a Republican candidate in the unlikely hopes that they will suddenly start behaving like a Democrat for some reason (or vice-versa) is simply wishful thinking. Politicians don''t choose their party affiliation for no reason, and they certainly don''t oppose their own party very often, if at all.

[patriot12436]

irliberal
I do not believe and have never belonged o a political party. I think the issues and what the candidates offer is what we should vote for. Voting for a party irregardless of what they represnt is irresponsible in my opinion.

[patriot12436]

irliberal. No i do not want to vote for McCain either as i am opposed to the war in Iraq. I would like to have another choice, but i trust mccain is loyal to this country. I do not believe obama is.