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National Review Online: If McCain Presents A Competent And Reformist Conservative Alternative, He Can Prove The Dems Wrong
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- The editors of the National Review are more intelligent than this - the Democrats are certainly not "betting that Clinton%u2019s triangulation and Bush%u2019s perceived failure have changed the country so much that an uncompromising liberalism is once again politically viable." This implies that Obama was chosen by the party leadership in a rational, calculated decision. Obama was chosen by caucus and primary voters, most of whom are attracted to his charisma and his personality, and probably couldn''t even tell you what the phrase "Clinton''s triangulation" means. The Review is certainly correct that he is the most liberal candidate in years, but implying that he was ''chosen'' because of this is a complete misunderstanding of the way that he won throught the primary and caucus system.
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Is Ron Paul still around?
Posted by guysdigdirt
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Now there''s a thought. Obama/Paul ''08!- Reply to this comment
- For decades opinion polls have showed that while the public didn''t like the "liberal" label, our political views are overtly liberal--supporting women''s legal right to abortion, social welfare programs like social security if they work, universal health care even if it''s a government program, etc. Conservative operatives like Rove and Gingrich managed to tar the word with their brush but didn''t manage to turn the American soul; and now that the proper spokesman has been found at the right moment, all the errant assumptions of the right wing are going to come crashing down. Obama and the Democratic congress will begin fashioning the European-style social democracy we need to be if we''re to be a civilized society, and the public will cheer in helping to erect it.
No amount of name-calling is going to deflect a public whose current generation is proudly calling itself "liberal" besides just subscribing to the values of liberalism. NRO squandered its inheritence on Cheney and Iraq, and will soon be in foreclosure... - Reply to this comment
- Wow, could it be a worse election than this? Obama is so far left even he does not know what he stands for. McCain is... well is looking too much like Bush.
Which is worse?
Is Ron Paul still around? - Reply to this comment
- "look at me mommy!! i made a rhyme!!! yay!!"
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Go me! Clever AND good-looking. :) - Reply to this comment
- It is 3:00 am and Hillary gets a phone call. Obama has clinched the party nomination what will you do now the voice on the other end proclaims.
It is 3:00 am days later and the only thing heard from Hillary is the sound of clicking keys as she hacks away on her calculator!
Hillary, the Queen of Spin and a Legend in Her Own Mind!
http://klintons.com - Reply to this comment
- First of all the NRO has lost ALL their credibility based on their support of the invasion, bush and his crime family and mcBush.
Why don''t the neo cons at the NRO just call him a liberal (OH, NO!) and get it over with. Obama announce he will not take corporate lobbyist money for his campaign. That must make him a communist huh dummies? - Reply to this comment
- ib4075, FDR was a far right conservative compared to the modern "screaming child" socialist leftwing party in America today.
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- OBAMA''S DISTURBING TREND
If he wants to get to the White House, Obama needs to reverse his current trend as he heads into battle with McCain.
http://pacificgatepost.blogspot.com/2008/06/concern-for-obamas-down-trend.html
He also needs to tap Hillary for VP. - Reply to this comment
- Bush worked hard to divide up Israel. It did not work and things did not turn out well for the leaders who tried to divide Israel.
Obama claims to be a Christian ! I think he may be reading the Bible ! ! !
Does McCain claim to stand for an undivided Jerusalem as the capital of Israel ? - Reply to this comment
- I don''t really believe that Hillary lost the nomination because of an "Anti-Clintonism" wave -as the article contents. If that wave existed, she wouldn''t have gotten more votes than Obama. She is certainly guilty for supporting Bush -and voting for-
the war in Iraq, and that I believe was her undoing.
As for McCain''s claim that he has national security experience that Obama doesn''t, that is not true either. McCain is a avid and mind-blowing warmonger, and he tries to serve that disposition as national security experience. He sees protracted wars as a virtue of U.S. hegemony that might be compromised without them, but Alexis de Tocqueville(1808-1859) said: "No protracted war can fail to endanger the freedom of a democratic country."
Baraq Obama just happened to be the fluke that sprouted in the middle of an Iraq war doubtful repentant [Hillary], and an Iraq war unrepentant [McCain]. And America is deprived of the best and the most experience statesman the U.S. needs today: Al Gore. Nikos Retsos, retired academic - Reply to this comment
- Obama says he will stand by Israel and an undivided Jerusalem as its capital.
He keeps talking like that and he could get my vote ! ! ! - Reply to this comment
- I am sick and tired of hearing persons of a politically conservative persuation use "left" and "leftist" as a scare tactic and slander. The most left president we ever had was FDR.
I am sick and tired of having my patriotism questioned because I don''t agree with "right" which seems to think it "owns" patriotism.
What I think people have been responding to in Obama is that the "right" had made a hash of things. They are voting for Obama, and so am I, because 1) he is trying to bring people together to solve things and 2) he is proposing a different approach than selling the country and its tax revenues to the biggest corporate donor. If that''s leftist, than I''m for it and so is the rest of the nation.
The best thing I heard from his speech Tuesday night was that he welcomed a debate with John McCain on the issues. There is much about John McCain that is admirable, but he needs to separate himself from the self-righteousness segment of his party. There was once a time when Democrats and Republicans worked out between them solutions to the country''s problems. THAT''S patriotism, people, and we''re goin to need all it we can get. - Reply to this comment
- Dream on, guys. McCain has sold his soul and morphed into Bush-3. Really sad. He has also demonstrated his less than stellar grasph of key foreign policy issues. Sad to see.
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- Keep calling this centrist candidate "left-wing" as long as you like. We know you would rather just shout n****r and be done with it. This election, your twin strategies of creating fear and enabling ignorance will probably not work.
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- First: Obama will mop the floor with McCain in any one-on-one appearances, town hall, or debates. No question.
Second: The Repugs are scared sh^tless, because they are stuck with a 71-year-old cancer survivor with a Keating 5 scandal in his past and ties to crooked lobbyists in his present, a record of supporting a "hundred years of war" in Iraq, and admitted ignorance on the economy. I really have to laugh at their problem here - the "base", the slack-jawed rapture nuts and creationist loonies, can''t stand this guy and will stay home in droves.
Third: Hillary went down, not because of "rigged" elections, but because too many people remember the eight years of Clintonism as eight years of one scandal after another, a First Lady who acted like a cross between *** Cheney and JR Ewing, and were sick to death of her horn-dog husband. No way would Obama want her (and consequently, Bill) anywhere near the VP slot. - Reply to this comment
- "Obama will be in a position to deal conservatism some of its worst setbacks in 40 years."
Don''t blame Obama, blame the neocons who hijacked the Republican party and turned it into a hate group. - Reply to this comment
- Anyone who would vote for that sick crazy McSame is absolutely a moron and does not deserve the privalege of being a Democrat.
Hillary represented business as usual, endless war, fraudulent elections, media monopoly, etc. We desperately need a progressive or at least someone smart enough to head in a progressive direction. Obama is the man!!!!!! - Reply to this comment
- Hillary Clinton supporters should work for Obama''''s resounding defeat and vote for McCain. I will volunteer and vote for McCain in a swing state.
The pro-Obama biased media simply reflected the rigged innards of the Democratic Party against Sen. Clinton.
A crushing defeat is needed to repudiate the rigged, corrupt Democratic Party.
The Democratic Party is in need of radical reform with the elimination of the superdelegates, the caucuses, and the proportional allocation system.
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Posted by crat3 at 11:46 AM : Jun 05, 2008
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You didn''t believe in ANYTHING Senator Clinton stood for IF you are willing to back McSame! On EVERY issue, top to bottom, Obama and Clinton are on the same page. So what it comes down to is YOU are a fraud using the very tight race and the loss by Senator Clinton to justify your abandoning EVERYTHING she has worked so hard for. - Reply to this comment
- "No More Drama, Vote Obama"
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