Comments on: Obama's Radical-Left Ties Broad And Deep

National Review Online: Senator Approves Of The Political-Theological Outlooks Of Michael Pfleger and Jeremiah Wright

Guilt by association is the sanctuary of those too lazy to look at a man''s own actions. In 14 years of public life, Obama would have made approximately 5000 "personal friends" at the rate of only one per day. (After all he ran campaigns in/for a large state that has 14 million people) A half dozen who have said/done radical things say nothing about Obama''s judgement except that he tries to work with everyone. I would expect McCain (due to his length of service alone) to have hundreds of questionable long-time friends. American culture does not dig up McCain''s relationships because we think we already know McCain through his war/Senate work. For example, the MSM only started talking about Hagee/Parsley after Rev. Wright came out.
Start with the main''s own extensive record
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/20/201332/807/36/458633

[saj210]

African Americans have had to deal with the ignorant and racist rants of white people for hundreds of years. I have no problem with Rev. Wright nor Rev. Pfleger because I believe what they have said is accurate. It''s their opinions and they are entitled to their opinions whether most of you folks agree or not.

If you don''t like what they have to say, don''t listen to it. Who told the news media to interfere in church services. They have not done so to Clinton nor McCain. I''m sure their pastors have said some things that are not pleasing. Hillary Clinton obviously hasn''t gotten much out of services as hateful as she is.

As far as I''m concerned I don''t believe much of what the media digs up, because a lot of them are bigots and the reason why America is in a sad situation.

[downsteamjim]

To hopeful08: Why not change your name to rerun08? Plow some new ground.

[frankson2]

Good!

When they could not find radical video clips over twenty years showing Barrack in the audience they created one to radicalize his church by targeting Hillary. The Pfleger video was a Chicago style hit-job designed to split the democratic party a week before the last primaries and the DNC rules meeting. It was only possible due to the sensation-seeking TV media that spent a month looping out-of-context video/trivial analysis defaming and endangering a congregation with a long record of rebuilding in Chicago. Hillary had piled on at the time. OFCOURSE the congregation cheered Pfleger''''s counter-punch, delivered by a visiting white priest from a different Christian denomination....as if to say "see we are not crazy, everyone thinks this way"

Why would Pfleger 1) duplicate Wright''''s theatrical performance, 2) one week before the final primaries, 3) at Wright''s old pulpit and 4) with a personal fight that was never his to begin with, especially 5) when it is nearly won, 6) using race as the argument. 7) Amazingly a camera caught it and Youtubed it in two days. The REAL audience was the national TV media!

Pfleger''s long-term mutual support with Obama is trivial when compared to what he could get for his ministry in such a high stakes drama. Here are the candidates OWN record
http://www.dailykos.com/story/20
08/2/20/201332/807/36/458633

[dolcette]

And as for you, "StopKidding," it isn''t fear of "da Black man." It is fear of deeply-held beliefs that are way out of line with even half-baked reality.

I am just as ready as anyone to elect a Black president. To me, they are more likely than not to kick the hell out of our nation''s enemies, while bringing an undeniable and very personal knowledge of the struggles of the under-privileged. The former head of the Congress of Racial Equality (CORE) was a viable candidate in my mind, should he ever choose to run.

But it is ultra-stupid and extremely foolish to hand the keys of the White House to a man who clearly understood and, by decades-long association, must have embraced ideals which are obviously insane. Rev. Wright is a very sick and hateful man. Fr. Pfeger demonstrated a distinct lack of maturity. And Rev. Moss thanked Fr. Pfeger for his disgusting display of anti-Christian behavior by actually praising the "messanger" a-n-d by "Thanking God" for it!

The color of any of these mens'' skin doesn''t have a thing to do with it, except, perhaps, in your own and very personal nightmares.

(Is it possible to have an honest and reasonably intelligent discussion with "the opposition" without idiotic and groundless comments. I wonder.)

[downsteamjim]

To MacBeth76: It was that great neocon Ted Kennedy that called Obama Osama.

[bluestardad]

NRO
WOULD IT BE BETTER FOR AMERICA IF OBAMA TOOK MONEY AND DIRECTION FROM THE ISRAELI LOBBY AIPAC, OR PNAC, OR THE AMERICAN ENTERPRISE INSTITUTE? YOU KNOW THOSE GUYS THAT GOT AMERICA INTO THE WAR IN IRAQ AND HAVE SUCCESSFULLY LOBBIED TO KEEP AMERICA MIRED IN THE MIDDLE EAST FOR THE LAST 65 YEARS?

[greeneyes222]

Good article, and more on the issues than ever comes out of Obama''s mouth.

[macbeth76]

Mr. Kurtz forgot to call him Barack Hussein Osama... um, I mean Obama. Typical republican fear mongering article which has nothing to do with issues.

[downsteamjim]

Let''s face it, it never really happened. Obama never went to that church, he never knew Rev. White, he never knew Rev. Pfleger, he never heard the racist speeches, he never associated with far left radicals. It is all right wing lies. In fact, Obama was born last week.

[dolcette]

Ubrew,

You started your post/reply to me by asking "What insights did you glean as to what the ''radical left'' politics of the Trinity Church is?"

All you need do is read or listen to anything Wright has said over these past few weeks to know exactly what these "politics" are. I don''t need to outline them for you here, again, I am sure.

The insight is that Obama, it turns out, is every bit as smart as his supporters say he is. Even smarter. And that, Ubrew, is now a very frightening prospect. It should be to you and to anyone else. We wouldn''t elect a Nazi or a Communist to the office of the president. Why would we want someone who feels "sad" at having to leave an organization which has stridently supported a whole range of truly sociopathic positions?

(If we were allotted more than 1500 characters, I would say a lot more.)

[stopkidding]

White conservatives are terribly frightened of any anger that comes from black men. I read this article carefully and it barely conceals its fear and bigotry.

[lvdragonlady-2009]

So what????
Barack is a half-black man and he participated in the 1M man march, so what?
Lots of black preacher''s go on tangents when preaching, what else is new?
The rest of this article, is one person''s opinion and not worth commenting on.

[jfcaffrey]

Geez! - Mr. Kurtz, standing on top of De Zutter%u2019s article (folded twice I''ll guess for higher moral ground) stopped just short of revealing that Obama is the Anti-Christ. What an anti-climax.

[dukegw]

Mr. Kurtz spends much of this piece writing about "black rage," like it''s some sort of disease that''s running rampant through the African-American community. The quotes from Obama refer to "fervor, (i.e., passion)" which has nothing to do with "rage."
Obama''s central thesis is correct- fervor, passion, and emotion can be harnessed and channeled into action and can affect the social change needed to improve the black community. African-Americans have to solve their own problems and they have the ability to do it. Since when is the idea of self-reliance "radical and left-wing?"

Mr. Kurtz writes: %u201C%u2026the black church is clearly a slumbering giant in the political and economic landscape %u2026." Does Kurtz not know that just about all of the prominent African-American political leaders of the 19th and 20th centuries (e.g., Adam Clayton Powell, Martin Luther King, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc.) all came from the Black Church? Does he really not know what all good politicians seem to know- that if you want the African-American vote, you have to go to the Black Church? Is he not aware that Obama represents the new generation of African-American political leaders- the first generation of political leaders who did not emerge from the Black Church?

And shame on CBS News for not running the original news article that Mr. Kurtz has so graciously interpreted for us all.

[tejasdemo]

Every time a Republican opens it''s mouth the collective IQ drops a point.

[tejasdemo]

Lol...what a bunch of flippin idiots...I mean idiots, Republicans really are.

[bloogirl-2009]

you don''t stay in a church for 20 years because there isn''t anywhere else to go. if he didn''t believe in what his pastor was slinging from the pulpit, why didn''t he leave a long time ago? he is just absolutely too unbelievable. i can''t understand how so many people are being fooled by him

Naive DEMs,
When they could not find radical video clips over twenty years showing Barrack in the audience %u2013 they created one to radicalize his church by targeting Hillary. The Pfleger video was a Chicago style hit-job designed to split the democratic party a week before the last primaries and the DNC rules meeting. It was only possible due to the sensation-seeking TV media that spent a month looping out-of-context video/trivial analysis defaming and endangering a congregation with a long record of rebuilding in Chicago. Hillary had piled on at the time. OFCOURSE the congregation cheered Pfleger''s counter-punch, delivered by a visiting white priest from a different Christian denomination....as if to say %u201Csee we are not crazy, everyone thinks this way%u201D

Why would Pfleger 1) duplicate Wright''s theatrical performance, 2) one week before the final primaries, 3) at Wright''s old pulpit and 4) with a personal fight that was never his to begin with, especially 5) when it is nearly won, 6) using race as the argument. 7) Amazingly a camera caught it and Youtubed it in two days. The REAL audience was the national TV media!

Pfleger''s long-term mutual support with Obama is trivial when compared to what he could get for his ministry in such a high stakes drama. Here are the candidates OWN record
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/20/201332/807/36/458633