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The Nation: Clinton Distortion Kills Her Credibility on Trade Policy

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by it_oldtimer March 23, 2008 10:37 PM EDT
Hillary, Hillary, Hillary...you really need to get some guts and actually try to stand for something - CONSISTENTLY - you can''t just keep flip-flopping and disowning/denying all your past positions like this. It''s really starting to become apparent that you''d literally do or say anything, just to get elected.

Where''s some sign that you possess an enduring "courage of your own convictions"? Do you really even HAVE any convictions? Any that you won''t deny in a heartbeat if you see some political gain in doing so?

You really make me wonder about those questions...
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by stn_sage March 23, 2008 10:33 PM EDT
NOW, to call her a L I A R and not call Obama out on his lies is just plain and simple a double standard
Posted by Serrano338 at 07:15 PM : Mar 23, 2008

Sir, I would point out to you that---for a change, but probably to counterbalance the dozens of negative articles on Mr.Obama this past week---THIS article was written to expose a shortcoming of Hillary Clinton!

I sense that it''s very emotionally satisfying to Clinton supporters that ALL articles be about Obama AND critical of him, but that is hardly fair, sir and doesn''t lend itself to balanced reporting!

Please except this one article, learn from it, and consider it! If you really believe in your candidate of choice, it won''t undermine that belief, so what''s the problem?! If it does, maybe you haven''t really decided yet! HUH?
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by serrano338 March 23, 2008 10:24 PM EDT
Whoever wrote that Senator Clinton does not care about you...Are you implying that Obama cares about you? Well if you think that, you''d better look at the real picture. Obama only cares about gaining power and giving nice speeches. If Obama really cared about YOU, he would take your questions, without a prepared statement to fall back on. But he can''t do that, because he knows the first person would ask the question that he does not want or cannot answer. So go ahead spew hatred and tear Hillary Clinton down, feels real good doesn''t it. Guess that feeling is what it''s like to support a real truth twister like Obama. You''re the one who needs to open your eyes. Obama isn''t the wonderful saint you are holding him up to be. At least I''m not expecting Hillary to walk on water and feed the multitudes with a loaf of bread and a fish.
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by serrano338 March 23, 2008 10:15 PM EDT
You know I just don''t get the nasty hateful tone and viciousness of this article. It must be paid for by the Obama campaign or the writer is crashing from drinking the kool-aid for all these weeks. While it may be true that Senator Clinton''s position on NAFTA now is different from when she was first lady but this article is leaving out some other essential facts about what Clinton has said about NAFTA. She fell in line on NAFTA after the president decided to promote it, but she also voiced some concerns about NAFTA, way before this election.

NOW, to call her a L I A R and not call Obama out on his lies is just plain and simple a double standard. Obama contradicted or L I E D about his knowing about the racist comments at his church and then in his speech says he knew. His lie is unforgiveable because unlike NAFTA he actively participated for 20 years, exposing his children, getting married, baptised and blessed by Rev. Wright in the church that awarded Farakahn only recently.

SO, be fair, tell the lies you want, but tell the lies of both candidates not only one, raising Obama up as some kind of saint when he is also a L I A R.

Please this kind of reporting just disgusts me and shows that people are the ones who need to change, a president is not going to change hateful reporting and hateful people, no matter what their beliefs about the candidates are.
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by stn_sage March 23, 2008 9:39 PM EDT
If it weren''t so tragic, it''d be comical!

That is, the blind support of HRC supporters. That aspect of HRC, her pro-NAFTA support---at least---has been ''vetted'' and thoroughly substantiated! I don''t know why her supporters have such a difficult time believing this!

Hey, she sat on the board of Wal-Mart for years, all the while, THOUSANDS of women were being discriminated against, underpaid and underpromoted.
She didn''t lift a finger to help! More real evidence about how she supports women in the workplace and labor in general!

You pro-worker, pro-labor, pro-family people in Ohio who voted for Clinton, you''re all SUCKERS! You wasted your vote! She doesn''t care about you people! Open your EYES, for Jimini''s sake! You people in Pennsylvania, you''re NEXT! It''s up to you!
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by dudzim March 23, 2008 9:20 PM EDT
This issue merits much broader media coverage and on-going discussion.


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by maxperfectforce March 23, 2008 6:52 PM EDT

Hillary Clinton
"I also want to reaffirm my commitment to the H-1B visa program and to increase the current cap. Foreign skilled workers contribute greatly to our technological development. That is well understood in Silicon Valley."

Obviously she is not concerned if American high tech workers can find work. And as this article calls out, she is not concerned with American manufacturing workers. What I resent is people like sesanders1 lack of concern for the American worker, American families, and their ever decreasing chance to grasp the American dream.
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by omega39-2009 March 23, 2008 6:49 PM EDT
Big Surprise....Hillary is in a leadership position on the DLC and their policy, right from their website states:

Support pro-poor trade reform. U.S. tariffs, far higher on clothes and shoes than on any other products, are the most regressive part of American tax policy. Failing to save jobs, they nonetheless raise the price of life necessities for single mothers and other low-income American families, while imposing a heavy burden on poor countries. Congressional leaders should resist the temptation to promote anti-trade policies that neither benefits Americans nor less developed countries.
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by March 23, 2008 6:26 PM EDT
Hillary probably attended many meetings as First Lady and in playing that roll, she had to appear acquiescent to whatever Pres. Clinton wanted. Just because she attended the meetings doesn''t mean she approved of the plans.
I resent the egregious language in this article...It is over the top and divisive...a biased piece of claptrap!
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by maxperfectforce March 23, 2008 4:58 PM EDT
Nice article. The truth laid out. The only people that would dispute such facts are Clinton supporters. The Clintons will say and do anything to get elected so it is no surprise that their supporters have no problems rationalizing, justifying, spinning and deceiving.

What is a surprise is the state that has borne the ill-effects of NAFTA would not hold her accountable.
How is your economy doing Ohio? The Clintons do not care about how Americans make a living. The corporations want NAFTA, outsourcing, and H-1B''s. You can count on Hillary NOT to stand up for the American worker.
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