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by knigochey March 20, 2008 7:39 AM EDT
%u201Cinaccurate retorts%u201D -------- what%u2019s inaccurate? A passive/aggressive insult?.

%u201CI am not "zombified"; whatever that means. A passive/aggressive insult? KGB?, can''''t figure that one out at all%u201D ----------
you even don%u2019t realize how many things you cannot figure out. And how far your vision is from 3D.

%u201Che did march%u201D -----------
again that marching, we are talking about issues or regimentation?

%u201CIn this blog throwing Mr. Jackson''''s record into the mix is supposed to do what?%u201D --------
casting doubts as to whether I%u2019d vote for a qualified person of any race is supposed to do what?

%u201CCan you get your rhetorical thinking cap on a little tighter please?%u201D ---------
what is that suppose to mean? Well, tell me your scull size, so I%u2019ll re-tailor the cap.
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by regulation411 March 20, 2008 7:12 AM EDT
I love how the right and hillary supporters try so desperately to paint obama as insincere..and theres certainly nothing zombified about barack supporters. they just see barack''s candidacy as an avenue for remarkable changes to take place in this country. the cynics will always try to paint this as naiveness.
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by knigochey March 20, 2008 6:53 AM EDT
%u201CStating categorically that Senator Obama is a racist%u201D ----------- agree, but that was an easy call. We really do not know for sure whether Barack is a racist. His wife looks like, but she is not running. However, why don%u2019t you argue with my ponts regarding Obama%u2019s insincerity or bad judgment at best? And his inability to predict the negative effect of that insincerity %u2013 definitely that is not what one would expect of the President.

%u201CI suppose Senator Kerry also deserved to be swift-boated and have his military career reinterpreted%u201D --------
I%u2019m glad you connected both cases. Definitely, Kerry thruster that upon himself. He built his entire career on slandering his comrades and condemning the %u201Cdirty war%u201D that allegedly undermined American security. Then he dared to claim that he defended this country in Vietnam. How you can defend at war that only harms? You can%u2019t have it both ways. Veterans used to protect each other and will never attack a fellow soldier, without an extraordinary reason. I%u2019d rather believe several hundred guys than 4-5 people from his bout. Besides, I also have some military background %u2013 and I also find very strange some details related to Kerry.
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by backingbar March 20, 2008 6:41 AM EDT
Like I said, .....Better to try to drag him down with cheap, angry, partial, and inaccurate retorts.

I am not "zombified"; whatever that means. A passive/aggressive insult? KGB?, can''t figure that one out at all.

Okay, Jesse Jackson may not have been a highly viable candidate; he did march and fight for Civil Rights as we can all agree. In this blog throwing Mr. Jackson''s record into the mix is supposed to do what? Reflect somehow on Senator Obama? Can you get your rhetorical thinking cap on a little tighter please?
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by knigochey March 20, 2008 5:39 AM EDT
"knigochey- you would vote for MLK?...you mean back when you were marching etc" ------ It is not about marching, backingbar. Jessie Jackson also marched next to MLK - but Jessie, I believe, doesn''t deserve any lowest office (this is the least critical note I can make)
"except wait, Dr King was not running for office and got cut him down before we got to know his beautiful, fully-articulated dream"---- Exactly: he had ideas and raised issues - that is why I could vote for him and people like him. Not the office and ransom seekers.
%u201CNow we have an able, poignant, compelling figure that makes some yearn again for new and real possibilities. He happens to be running for office%u201D -------- I also have been somewhat charmed but cautious as life taught me. I could summit to the notion that Barack used the Wright%u2019s clout if he honestly admitted it. Instead, he engaged in that stupid lying/denial. Have you seen the %u201Cchurch%u201D website? If so, you know what I mean.
%u201CHe can''''t however, muster hope in people%u201D --------
The question is: hope for what? It is quite insincere to deliberately leave the %u201Copen-endedness%u201D so gullible (zombified) people (each one of them) would construct their own models of the utopist future and refer those dreams to Obama%u2026 But the strategy is brilliant. It is not new, however %u2013 something similar they employed in NKVD (the KGB predecessor) when people made up their own %u201Cconfessions%u201D.

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by backingbar March 20, 2008 4:33 AM EDT
Some see fit to defend and interpret Don Imus'' racial slur and then defy logic by concluding that the dilemma of Rev. Wright''s sensational remarks indirectly affecting Senator Obama are identical situations. I see no evidence for that except half-baked, inflated, bombastic knee jerk reactions of those that dislike this particular candidate.

Stating categorically that Senator Obama is a racist might stir up some particular sentiments for some; but they are specifically a subjective response and not based in reason or fact. I suppose Senator Kerry also deserved to be swift-boated and have his military career reinterpreted because it got some people riled up and was expedient. The illogic is at least consistent.
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by March 20, 2008 1:47 AM EDT
"I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community." ====But it didn''t take him 20 years to disown Don Imus. Called for his head on a platter within a matter of hours after talking to Al Sharpieton. Said he couldn''t stomach the offensive language Don Imus was using to talk about some black girls; didn''t seem to have any trouble stomaching 20 years of "God *** America." Is that the way it works for a Great Uniter? Pull the brother inside your arms and protect him, send the white guy to the unemployment line? It isn''t whether this black man can make this divide go away; it is now whether this divide will make this black man go away.
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by backingbar March 19, 2008 10:15 PM EDT
knigochey- you would vote for MLK?...you mean back when you were marching etc, or all the times you demonstrated on behalf of balance/justice & fairness? I can just see you now voting for MLK; .....except wait, Dr King was not running for office and got cut him down before we got to know his beautiful, fully-articulated dream.

Now we have an able, poignant, compelling figure that makes some yearn again for new and real possibilities. He happens to be running for office. He can''t however, muster hope in people that have none or for those that prefer to shrink from the challenge that his candidacy might provoke in them. Better to try to drag him down with cheap, angry, partial, and inaccurate retorts.
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by knigochey March 19, 2008 9:16 PM EDT
"WOW! you people sound....Racist. The hateful tone and the constant references to race make me very uncomfortable. You sound like closeted racists who would never vote for Obama simply because he''''s black. Maybe you should look in a mirror before you label someone else racist" --------
Maybe you should read what you opponents say, before throwing the mirror?
Well, you do not need anything since you are doomed to be "on the right side" by virtue of being the left as the Communist party teachers, correct?

I''d vote for Congressman Watts or Frances Rice, and readily for MLK, who stemmed from a Republican family - your hatemongers didn''t tell you who he was? %u2013 sorry about that.
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by knigochey March 19, 2008 9:00 PM EDT
"Funny, what lies are you refering to? Cough em up......"---------------

Well, #1: pretending Dem do not lie at least quintuple to compare with Reps.

And then, the endless range of deliberate lies: starting from "immediate withdraw will immediately save money for the budget%u201D (truth: it will cost scores of billions) %u2013 to we aren%u2019t going to overtax middle class %u2013 to illegal immigrants help the economy, etc

%u201CI don''''t just hope to get Bush out. I hope to remove anyone in office that still thinks the "trickle down" effect works.....%u201D --------------------

Another lie: you are going to bring to power the party that historically based everything on %u201Ctrickle down effect.%u201D (at least from the time it was established in its modern, redistribution-oriented incarnation %u2013 1964, after the Kennedy assassination). It was I, not you, who experienced the fruit of the leftist party ultimate victory %u2013 that is why I cannot be as blind as you are. Never again %u2026 I%u2019d rather die.
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