Comments on: Romney Is McCain's Best VP Option

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[jjp735i]

I am glad Fred Barnes is not the presidential choice. His VP list is way to scary. I would not want any of his choices for VP knowing one of them will end up running the country.

[shadfurman]

Would you call me a bigot if my boundary was not accepting those of minority ethnicity?

[shadfurman]

(continued some more, sorry guys, didn''t realize I''d run this long)
YES, me and my friends have differences, OF COURSE they want me to be Mormon. JUST AS I would like them to consider MY christen views. And I do take offense when a supposed follower of Christ condemns a religion for their fantastical beliefs when REALLY christianity it''s self takes such a RADICAL amount of faith.
This is getting long, so I''m gonna end this comment with this, Mormons (as a people) are GOOD people who believe in the SAME principles that Christ taught (whether or not you want to give them a christen label) they support families and unity of faith and the ten commandments and turn the other cheek and baptism and Christ. They HOLD christen values in their hearts, I know this not because they many are my friends, but because I know them personally. Doctrinal differences aside, THAT is true about them. It might not be my place to judge, but I cannot find how anyone who says otherwise could be anything other than a bigot or just plain ignorant.

[shadfurman]

(continued) If two religions have different views than they cannot both be right. If one is right and one is wrong, then only one of the churches is right. (I know, duh) So if both churches derive their doctrine from the same source (the bible) why do they disagree. And if the DON''T disagree, why are they different churches?
God set up ONE church through Moses, the church became corrupt and when Christ came he closed the chapter and reopened ONE new church. (As far as I know, we don''t disagree on this) I (personally) think history has shown that the catholic church had become corrupt. Not long after Martin Luther (and the printing press) churches began springing up left and right. Was this God? I don''t think so, I think it was men. Good men who know the church had become corrupt and had no other alternative. However... why are SO MANY sects of christianity RIGHT and Mormons WRONG inspite of their proclamation to follow Christ. NO ONE could tell me I''M not christen, I think it is hippocritical to try and tell someone else who professes to be christen that he is not.

[shadfurman]

(chris3143) Well written, however it sure feels like you''ve made some wide presumptions about me. I do consider your previous comment harsh to the point of bigotry. Perhaps if is was written with the same tack as your last comment, I might not have come to that conclusion. (This is of course my opinion). Any true Christen friend would try to convert one not of his faith, as the way to be saved is to believe on Christ and be baptized. (Do we not celebrate a baptism?) Mormons believe a very similar theme, and it is commendable that they believe they are trying to save their brothers and sisters from condemnation. As for their condemning other religions, the eleventh verse in their "articles of faith" (an outline of their faith) states
11 We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
Right off their church website, lds.org

[anicia909]

Gov. Romney is the BEST choice for VP. He is great in fundraising, *** laude from Harvard, very brilliant. He should have been the nominee but some bigots here keep ranting and wanting to make some MONEY in expense of the Mormons (LDS - Latter Day Saints). Very un-American. How about you do that with blacks or Catholics? For sure there will be riotings.

[digitalmidge]

This is one of the best articles I''ve ever read. I really think Fred Barnes has hit this so identically to my own feelings it''s like he''s actually opened up my head and extracted the very thoughts I''ve had on the subject of an "M & M" ticket, as brought up by the Architect, Karl Rove. I was always impressed by Romney, and I truly agree that he would be a far more effective VP choice for McCain than anyone else on the ''short list'' by far. Plus, look at it this way, there were a lot of people who already liked Romney and already voted for him in the primary (including myself). This gives a lot of help to McCain in the General, and quite frankly, I think a McCain/Mitt ticket would be a truly unbeatable combination, not to mention an absolutely rock solid Republican ticket, and that''s what we need right now. Just my two cents.

[tedstryker4]

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[chris3143-2009]

To Shadfurman (message posted at 11:33)

You might have more interesting discussions with your Mormon friends, if you could make the distinction between, on the one hand, having a friend enjoying their company for any of several reasons, and on the other hand, agreeing with their religious beliefs.

One doesn''t imply the other. Some of the most interesting discussions happen with people you DISagree with, if all parties to the discussion come with an open heart.

If your friends are serious Mormons, they want to convert YOU. And if you are Christian, you fall under the condemnation by Joseph Smith who was told (directly by God and Jesus Christ) that ALL religions of the day were apostate. Mormon missionary zeal is precisely because this view still holds in the LDS church.

I am willing to be friends with Mormons and people of widely differing religious backgrounds. (I have Jewish, Muslim and Buddhist friends, for example.) I work hard to find common ground. Maybe I and a Mormon friend would talk about the importance of family. That would be common ground. But as soon a Mormon goes deeper and explains how the family is modeled on God and His Spirit Wives, we will have to agree to disagree, for I cannot conceive of God in such terms.

In other words, Shadfurman, I will go as far as I can go, but there will eventually come a limit which I cannot cross and remain honest.

We all have such boundaries in our lives. Do not call me a bigot just because I know that I have them.

[chris3143-2009]

Hi KimbaM (message posted at 11:33)

It is not my intention to offend. But I know quite enough about Mormon distinctives to know that Mormon teaching has veered from the heart of Christianity at its very foundation:

1) Mormons are taught that God was once a man. Christians believe that God has always existed, was never created, nor born of any prior God.

2) Brigham Young condemned the Christian doctrine of the Trinity, which Christianity has understood from the beginning.

I could go on, but this is a POLITICAL forum, after all.

For you to say that I know nothing of Mormonism is a bare claim on zero evidence. (You do not know me. You haven''t seen my home library. We haven''t spoken. etc...) Lacking space and time, I have not written even a fraction of what I have know about the LDS church.

It is hard to discuss matters where a person has formed an emotional attachment in a particular direction. We all do that in some way or another. And so I confine my comments to Mormon DOCTRINE and TEACHINGS not to the spiritual state of Mormons themselves. For I cannot know the spiritual state of a given Mormon any more than a Mormon (such as yourself?) can know me.

Oh... I guess I DID give comments about Mitt Romney. But really isn''t this fair game in a political forum? We judge our presidents on a variety of factors and their religion is certainly one of them.