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National Review Online: Evidence For Intelligence Estimate's Claims Is Thin

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by tylenol6 December 4, 2007 6:31 PM EST
Bush LIED again????????????? Your kidding me!!!!!!!!!!!
Bush is DANGEROUS!!!!!!!!!!
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by feelfree1 December 4, 2007 6:30 PM EST

tejasdemo,

Re: "I dont even need to read this "article"..."

You''re not alone!
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by tejasdemo December 4, 2007 6:13 PM EST
I dont even need to read this "article" to be assured it is nothing more than a complete piece of fantasy based on no facts at all.

Why does CBS continue to give these guys a space to post this nonsense ?
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by bluestardad December 4, 2007 6:03 PM EST
THIS IS THE SAME MAGAZINE THAT SAID IF YOU DONT AGREE WITH BUSH YOU DONT BELIEVE IN GOD!
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by eggy1620 December 4, 2007 5:26 PM EST
So the NRO is now faulting the intelligence agencies because they followed the Vice Presidents direct orders to lie to the President and his cabinet. If the NIE said that Iran has not halted its program, the NRO would be saying, %u201CLet%u2019s give the NIE the benefit of belief. The intelligence agencies have undoubtedly turned themselves around and are now trustworthy.%u201D
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by shingles1 December 4, 2007 5:13 PM EST
Michael Ledeen is:

1) a self declared Iran expert who has never actually been to Iran and doesn''t speak Persian.
2) was involved in the whole Iran-Contra deal, meaning that he traitorously sent arms to our enemy (since, according to him Iran has been at war with the US since 1979).
3) his "expert" sources led him to famously pronounce people as being dead when they weren''t. TWICE. First with bin Laden and later with Iran''s Supreme Leader.
4) he has been linked to the people who forged the Niger Yellowcake documents.
5) way too many other instances of stupidity/duplicity to mention.

Since Ledeen''s track record is so ridiculously and comically awful, a pretty good rule of thumb when listening to his unhinged rantings is "the truth is the opposite of whatever Ledeen thinks is the truth".
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by feelfree1 December 4, 2007 5:03 PM EST

Related:

"In 1974, Michael Ledeen moved to Rome where he studied Italian (what else?)fascism..."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Ledeen

Ledeen is also thought to have been involved in the Niger "yellow-cake" fraud that was used in part to justify the illegal war of aggression against Iraq.

www.useless-knowledge.com/1234/july/article328.html

Heil, to Mr. Ledeen. A deceptive traitor and fascist apologist of the highest order.

Many top WWII Nazis were sentenced and hanged at Nuremberg. What will be Mr. Ledeen''s fate?
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by bareemperor December 4, 2007 4:47 PM EST
9/II = CIA false flag op?
Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act = Constitution Burned?

Proposed SB 1959 = Institutionalized hatred and fear?

C''mon, babyboomers - you stopped these same tyrants before, it''s time to act once more.
Remove the traitors before 9/ I I I
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by tyjohn47 December 4, 2007 4:31 PM EST
Actually Quartermass2, I think they''re po''d about the NIE at NRO because they are also stockholders in Halliburton, Blackwater, etc. and really wanted to see their investments pay off when we hit Iran next.
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by tyjohn47 December 4, 2007 4:29 PM EST
OK, so NOW....now...NRO DOESNT believe the National Intelligence Estimate?! Hmmm.
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by gkc99 December 4, 2007 4:11 PM EST
The question isn''t whether Iran wants nuclear weapons, it''s whether Iran is taking concrete steps to make nuclear weapons. Any state threatened by the USA or other nuke powers would want nuclear weapons unless they like being kicked around.

Example"

US to Iran: "We gonna kick your boodies."

US to North Korea: "oh please Mr. Dictator sir, let us send you some more cases of Scotch whiskey and caviar while your starve another 100,000 of your citizens."

Get real!
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by Razzl December 4, 2007 3:38 PM EST
It would seem the conclusion to be drawn is that it doesn''t matter to NRO what the evidence is or where it comes from, because they''ve already determined on the basis of their ideological biases that Iran is bad and therefore must be wanting to develop a nuclear weapon which they must want to use on us and therefore we have to attack them. For those of us who make up the electorate that Bush and the neocons refuse to acknowledge as the basis of this country''s political power, that''s a pretty weak argument for putting all our loved ones at risk of horrible death in the world war which an attack on Iran will initiate. I and the vast majority of my fellow citizens am willing to trust our military to keep an eye on the ground, to trust our diplomats to talk to the right people the right way, and am unwilling to ever allow Bush or Cheney or any of their underlings to make the decision to use military force again during the remainder of their term without explicit authorization from Congress, as the Constitution requires...
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by trillion1 December 4, 2007 3:23 PM EST
bush should be impeached on mental health grounds. He isn''t capable of telling the truth and has almost no grasp of reality.
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by gkc99 December 4, 2007 3:22 PM EST
"Color me an unbeliever.
By Michael Ledeen"


NO, you''re a "believer"--in the Bushit brand of cyanide-flavored Koolaid.

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by quatermass2 December 4, 2007 3:22 PM EST
The author is upset because this greatly decreases the probability of a unilateral first strike against Iran. Poor baby, that take the starch out of your shorts? Can''t have (yet another) unwinnable, pointless war? Awwwww.........
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