Comments on: Iran Not Going Nuclear? You're Kidding Me

National Review Online: Evidence For Intelligence Estimate's Claims Is Thin

[roger3815]

Too bad cons weren''t this skeptical in 2003.

[kansas1946]

NRO and their line up will not be happy until we are actively involved in combat in every country in the middle east, world war III is started, everything is a desolate wasteland glowing green, and they are all down in their bunkers with George Bush wondering about the half life of heavy elements, since none of them paid attention in science class, only Bible class.

[cdfoxtrot]

Israeli intelligence thinks they are working on the bomb, Blah, Blah, Blah.... For those of you who are willing to go outside of the boundaries of our media, here is something from a couple of hours ago: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?c
id=1195546805188&pagename=JPost%2FJPArti
cle%2FShowFull.

Posted by B0ludo

I hardly think the Jerusalem Post could, by any stretch of the imagination, be considered a credible or trustworthy source on Iran, the Palestinian issue, or anything else that might interest us here in the US.

[cdfoxtrot]

Just wondering. If the report had said that Iran was currently developing nuclear weapons, would Michael Ledeen and others like him (e.g. Joe Looser-man) be trying to cast doubt on it? Or would they be quoting it verbatim, as "evidence" that had to be acted on as a matter of urgency? I love the way the extreme right are now willing to attack the intelligence community now that they (the intelligence crowd) seem to have re-discovered integrity and impartiality.

[feelfree1]

Re: "Israeli intelligence thinks they are working on the bomb..."

Israeli "intelligence" enjoys about as much credibility as Michael Ledeen, which is less than none.

[b0ludo]

Israeli intelligence thinks they are working on the bomb, but our geniuses, several thousands of miles away, don''t. They are not trying to make a bomb, but they are continuing to enrich Uranium, I guess for clean and green nuclear power plants? For those of you who are willing to go outside of the boundaries of our media, here is something from a couple of hours ago: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1195546805188&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull.

[cyberus-2009]

Ok .. so when they say Iraq ... err Iran *is* going nuclear then they are accurate .. when they say not nuclear they are inaccurate ... hmmmm ... selective fact finding at its best.

[kennedy7955]

The USA has proven that it cannot run the world, police the world, lead by example or even keep its own house in order. Its time we backed away from the table and went to a mirror for a hard long look, it is ugly. It is time to clean up our own act and leave the world to fend for itself.

[ubrew12]

NRO: "Iran Not Going Nuclear? You''re Kidding Me"

Seems you''ve been kidding me.
And not just about Iran.

[knyghtwolf]

There is therapy available for these people that live in the shadow realms of fringes of reality, its called snap therapy where you place a rubber band on your wrist and every time you feel that creeping paranoia coming over you, you snap the rubber band three times and repeat to yourself that there is NO PLACE LIKE REALITY three times. After you are done, verify your surroundings and call a friend to come help you get home. We are here for you and your mental health.

[wogerwabbit]

NRO talking their treasonous trash again. One day we''re going to have to hunt these people down and exterminate them for the good of the country.

[skibum678]

We seem to be forgetting here our own involvement in overthrowing Iran''s elected government in the 70s and installing the Shah. We''ve already forgotten Iran''s offers or aid after 9/11 (which they had nothing to do with). Most inportantly our discussions of nuclear weapons in the middle east keep leaving out Israel''s 100+ nuclear weapons. Ignorance of these facts could lead to very serious foreign policy mistakes.

Yes, I do believe that our foreign policy could get even worse. I know that''s hard for some of us to imagine.

[bobgee_1999]

Yeah, why should you believe the intelligence community over a reporter who works for an openly biased paper?

[andor3]

DOES anyone read these NRO chuckle/yawn pieces anymore? I just read the headlines, laugh, then skip to the comments to see which of my favorite neocon goons are making fools of themselves.

[denn034]

Is the intelligence wrong? One can see it like that as Ledeen does or it can be viewed as the Iranians changing their focus from making nuclear plants to enriching uranium. I''m going with changing focus over the report being wrong.

[samsel3]

Nothing has changed on Iran. The administrations interest in Iran & nukes is a smoke screen for their real agenda. Their true interests are Cheney''''''''''''''''s energy policy. Part of that policy is the The Caspian Sea pipeline which goes through Turkmenistan, Afghanistan,Pakistan,India & Nepal.It will be cheaper to construct if they can go through part of Iran, but regime change is necessary first. The Caspian sea area holds one third of the world''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''s oil and south asian oil markets are their target market. This pipeline was also the reason for the Afghanistan invasion. Cheney''''''''''''''''s energy policy is the root of all these middle east wars, a federal court judge sealed all documents associated with it for the administration, and the national media are not allowed to discuss or comment on it. More troops are needed in Afghasnistan to protect the contractors building the pipeline. Iran stands in the way and is now in the crosshairs. China said there would be dire consequences if the US interfered with there direct oil contracts with Iran. Both parties in the Congress should be very concerned with China''''''''''''''''s growing war machine and need for oil. They are the real threat & the administration doesn''''''''''''''''t care they are in control!!! All that matters to them is BIG OIL and their corporate stock portfolios. Greed & gain as they worship the god of money.

[runningralph]

Mao had a philosophy of "fight,fight,talk,talk" and "political power comes out of the barrel of a gun". Iran is in the "talk,talk" phase now, but when they see they can gain, they will go to the "fight,fight" phase. They will keep their hand hidden, but never lose sight of their goal.

[imnho]

The author of this article wants to have a war with Iran real bad. He does not want to go to war himself or have his family put at risk.The national intellgence estimate just knocked the supports from under the necon desire to start a third war. This must anger them to no end. They were counting on this war to feed there ego''s and bak accounts and now its not going to happen.

[feelfree1]

Since Mr. Ledeen is an expert on Italian fascism, perhaps he can summarize for us all, how that turned out?

[shingles1]

Ledeen states in the last line:

...Iranian Revolutionary Guards (Shiites) were trained in the early 1970s by Yasser Arafat%u2019s al Fatah (Sunnis).

The problem is that the Iranian Revolutionary Guard wasn''t formed until May of 1979. Last I checked "1979" is not the "early 1970''s". Poor poor Ledeen, it''s so hard to keep your facts straight when you''re dissembling (lying).