Comments on: A Taxpayer Protest Against A Global War

The Nation: If Bush Goes To War With Iran, Americans Should Deny Him The Money He Needs

[logicanada]

Correct me if I''m wrong but Hasn''t the I.R.S. lost every case of NOT FILING or FAILURE TO FILE in court?
Seems there is no law you requiring to file, but if you do, then you have to pay.
It has to do with income of an individual for labor being a barter instead of services rendered.
Anyone know for sure?

[logicanada]

FREEDOM FRRRRIIIIEEEESSSSS!

[noloyalisti]

Are they going to put 50 million people in the concentrations camps? All this works when huge numbers of people join in and become involved.

Look at what happens in France and other countries when the wealthy corporate government folk try to hold the people liable. Of course the French and other Europeans have so much more security than us for health care, retirement and their jobs. We might be too far gone here.

However, at this point we really have not choice but to hold out our taxes or start general strikes. Otherwise it is possible we will end up in the camps anyway.

[mandylou4u]

I guess I''ll have to be like some of my ancestors, you will have to kill me and my family before you enslave or imprison us. But I will fight for what I believe in because it''s not money or who''s got the biggest suv. It''s about being free, something we haven''t been for a while if ya look at it a certain way.

[gkc99]

" If everyone stoped paying parts of their taxes, are they gonna build more jails to put us all in? "


Yup. KBR, a Halliburton subsidiary, is already building them. Promoting non-payment of federal income taxes can easily be classified as an "extremist ideology" by the feds, so under the John Warner Defense Appropriation Act of 2007, any person so advocating could be rounded up by federal troops acting on the say-so of Darth Bushit and put into one of those shiny new concentration camps.

This is what "freedom" means to Neoconscum and the Bushits.

[mandylou4u]

I believe in what alot of this guy is saying. But, if we want to be a united people here, we have to trust that if we stick together, we can accomplish anything. If everyone stoped paying parts of their taxes, are they gonna build more jails to put us all in? They wouldn''t get our "tax paying dollars" to build them. If you haven''t noticed, they impose taxes on us all the time. Some taxes are just now being taken off that were there for some old thing and nobody even noticed they were still paying for something that was over. We have to start really paying attention to what we are putting out of our checks. That is our money and like I said before, we shouldn''t be scared of our government, they should be scared of us. They should at the least, respect us.

[tejasdemo]

I agree. I wont pay my taxes either or allow poor kids to get sent off to get killed in war. Maybe then all these blowhard cowards who call themselves patriotic conservatives will have to put their kids and money on the line for these flat out insane ideas.

[kesac4650]

Another silly little Liberal fear monger. He wouldn''t have to pay our taxes if he had gone to Canada in 2000 and 2004 like he promised then.

[zoopster1]

Ah finally, "avoice" of reason in the midst of all the wishful thinking. You are correct on nearly all counts, although I can''t really say whether or not we could have *predicted* what would happen after Saddam. Nobody can predict the future. What we should have done was hoped for the best (which they did), and planned for the worst (which they clearly did not). I also take issue with the assumption that our invasion somehow "created" another al Qaeda "franchise". Most of the al Qaeda fighters we are facing there are NOT native Iraqis and never were. They are Saudis, Syrians, Yemenis, Qataris, Jordanians, etc. That supports what I said earlier, about al Qaeda sending its soldiers wherever ours are, to fight us. The native Iraqis are Kurd, Sunni and Shiite and affiliate themselves with their tribe, not with an organization based thousands of miles away. Where the code of the Marine Corps is "unit, Corps, God, country", the code of the average Iraqi is "family, tribe, imam, Allah". There is no "country" to them; their country was created for them by the British back in the 20''s. They don''t own it, and they don''t care. We can''t instill a sense of national pride in a people who don''t consider themselves a nation.

So what do we do? I don''t know. It''s very grim and I expect that a lot more people will have to die before things get better. No matter who sits in the White House.

[zoopster1]

You know, I thought I was dealing with moderately intellectual people here. But if the only response you have to my very valid points are personal insults, I must say you disappoint me. Go back over what I said and point out ONE area of factual error. Just one. That''s all I ask. I''ll concede that point immediately.

I supported the initial Iraq invasion. I knew Saddam was a bad guy who had gotten away with a lot of bad things. Do I think we have made all the right choices since then? Of course not. I''m not stupid. I believe the neo-con hawks sold us a bill of goods based on assumptions that took no lessons from history, and that was a colossal mistake. When you invade and conquer a country, you do it with an army of millions, not a paltry 180,000. Any smart general knows that. I blame Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and others for those failings. They also failed to take the local tribal politics into consideration. Who do you think is doing most of the killing over there now? Not us. We give those people their country back, and the first thing they do is turn their guns on each other, to settle scores that Saddam''s regime wouldn''t allow them to?? Sorry, but when I see that, THAT is when I lose hope. Anything Bush does is insignificant compared to that.