Comments on: Legislating Towards Universal Health Care?

National Review Online: Democrats Pushing Near-Universal Health Care Coverage Incrementally

[wogerwabbit]

not really, drivelphobe... you ignorent neocon robot... I have cancer and pay $657 per month for health insurance (and another $385 for my wife) that won''t cover my $700 per month chemo therapy treatments. I''m sure you think that''s fair and balanced and I just can''t afford to live, so I should go ahead and die. Your charity towareds your fellow man is underwhelming and I''m sure God will make you pay in the end. Have a nice day, a$$hole.

[katg21]

What a filthy goal: health care for everyone.

It''''s practically un-Christian!
Posted by marcodele at 05:56 PM : Aug 22, 2007

It''s practically SOCIALISM. I have to laugh because anytime these liberal politicians throw out the "poor card" you guys jump right in. News flash, the poor already don''t pay taxes, they get medicaid and food stamps. On top of that, there are millions of very generous americans donating additional money and services to help such people. Hell, we even give our hard earned money to illegal aliens and pay for their healthcare. What, you want some handouts too?

[katg21]

I assume you prescribe to our religion''''s basic tenets of taking care of the poor, doing unto others as you would have them do unto you, and loving your neighbor as yourself?
Posted by rwassel at 05:13 PM : Aug 22, 2007

You would assume correctly. How does not supporting universal healthcare translate to I don''t care about the poor? You don''t know what I give or what I do to help the poor and less fortunate, so shove it.

[marcodele]

What a filthy goal: health care for everyone.

It''s practically un-Christian!

[rwassel]

Amen!!! Some of these fools would prefer a socialist government.
Posted by katg21 at 05:05 PM : Aug 22, 2007

By using "Amen", I''m assuming you''re Christian. Thus, I assume you prescribe to our religion''s basic tenets of taking care of the poor, doing unto others as you would have them do unto you, and loving your neighbor as yourself? Oh, you only follow the tenets you want to follow? Ok, I see...

[rwassel]

"Just what we need another government run failure costing trillion''''s"

I''m sorry, this story was about health care, not the Iraq War.

[rwassel]

"Basic health care is available through various government providers such as medicaid."

- Posted by drivelphobe at 01:13 PM : Aug 22, 2007

Oh, do you mean the Medicaid coverage that has been cut, and will continue to be cut, for years? (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5195533)

I have a question - what if you were too poor to afford even basic coverage for health insurance (which at the minimum runs almost $300 a month for a family, but found you didn''t qualify for Medicaid? What would you tell that person?

I''m sure Jesus would just love turning people away from receiving basic medial attention. I hope you do not consider yourself Pro-Life.

[katg21]

Universal health care already exists for the poor and the illegal aliens. The rest of us don''''t need it or want it. We want the best our money can buy, and we don''''t want to subsidize any more entitlements programs.
Posted by drivelphobe at 01:13 PM : Aug 22, 2007


Amen!!! Some of these fools would prefer a socialist government.

[katg21]

So only the rich deserve quality health care?
Posted by NativeWoman at 04:23 PM : Aug 22, 2007

Never been rich, have always had good quality healthcare.

[nativewoman]

Posted by drivelphobe at 01:13 PM : Aug 22, 2007

So only the rich deserve quality health care?

Who will perform all your menial tasks once the poor have the good grace to die and get out of your way?

Some more of that "culture of life" stuff from the right.

[mimi611]

Why would we spend any money on sick people (especially children who can''t vote) when we have to spend all our money killing people. So. War is a good thing. Helping children stay healthy is a bad thing? What a bunch of idiots. Also, I wish these people that think government is so bad would stop trying to get elected to office. Bush ruined our government; so he can say "see how bad government is". And you fools fall for it.

[mudrose-2009]

drivelphobe, what drivel! How naziesque! You''''re sickening... I need a doctor after reading your despicable post. I pray you go broke... but not broke enough to go on medicaid... just lose your job and lose your health insurance... that should straighten out your idiotic thinking. Just pitiful!
Posted by WogerWabbit

Sorry you don''t get a free ride. If you can afford it you pay for it. If you can''t you qualify. No socialized medicine. No expansions to those who already have coverage. And be careful what you wish on others, it could happen to you.

[drivelphobe]

WogerWabbit.......

It''s seems I struck a sore spot with you. You must be one of the indigent whiners who think they are entitled to more than they can afford. Thank you for your nice thoughts. I wish only the best for you inspite or your emotional outburst.

[andor3]

drivelphobe said: "LIke any product, there are varying degrees of quality, and quality is directly related to cost. The more you can spend, the better the product,..."

Yes, this is the problem with U.S. health care. Insurance companies are in control and they must make money--the less they spend, the more profit for them. Incompetence, delays, are encouraged. And more to the point, the system is designed to spend less on care and quality while more goes into shareholders profits. This is the fundamental flaw.

If you get health care through insurance, you are putting your decisions in the hands of people who are sworn to spend as little as possible on your care. If you skip insurance, the system is set up to make care prohibitively expensive.

drivelphobe said: "Health care is NOT a right"
Access to basic health care is absolutely a right. Universal minimum coverage for everyone is affordable and desirable.

[wogerwabbit]

drivelphobe, what drivel! How naziesque! You''re sickening... I need a doctor after reading your despicable post. I pray you go broke... but not broke enough to go on medicaid... just lose your job and lose your health insurance... that should straighten out your idiotic thinking. Just pitiful!

[andor3]

someone said: "Just what we need another government run failure costing trillions"

As opposed to the current private-run failure that costs hundreds of trillions and rewards waste, fraud and people who do as little as possible?

What we need is universal health coverage--everyone is covered, no insurance companies or pharmaceutical corporations making huge profits. Yeah it is probably best run by the government. The government track record is a lot better than the private sector in these things.

[hwk_i67]

This is probably the one area I agree with Bush on. There is no reason why a family making 80k with the health plans that are out there be able to access this.

[nexgen99]

Just what we need another government run failure costing trillion''s

[mimi611]

I wish you neo''s would quit talking about religion and "family values"; since you have none. What a bunch of hipocrits.

[drivelphobe]

Health care is NOT a right, but a service provided by others who have spent many years and lots of moola to become qualified to do so. There can never be equal access to quality health care nor should there be. LIke any product, there are varying degrees of quality, and quality is directly related to cost. The more you can spend, the better the product, in this case, health care. It seems only those without sufficient income or assets are the ones complaining about their plight. Basic health care is available through various government providers such as medicaid. This should take care of the indigent. All others should get the care that their money can buy. Not every one should get the kind of care Donald Trump can get.

Universal health care already exists for the poor and the illegal aliens. The rest of us don''t need it or want it. We want the best our money can buy, and we don''t want to subsidize any more entitlements programs.