Comments on: A New "King George"

The Nation: President Bush's Handling Of The War Recalls Warnings From Founding Fathers

[gabbysmomrs]

Ben Franklin once said, "We ( regarding the Declaration of Independence) have given you liberty, now try and keep it!"

We too are responsible for the Imperial King George...he stepped in and took our power away in a time of tribulation and confusion. The Congress' powers sre outlined in the Constitution, as are the President's. We must require our elected officials to take back their constitutional duties and powers...or else. Do we have power to impeach these people? Yes, we can. The Constitution allows it...we'd have to prove "High Crimes and Misdemenors", but isn't accepting the President's usurpation of their Constitutional powers considered one of those?

WE are the country, we MUST fight for it.

[jjreding-2009]

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Several attempts at this Amendment all referred to the right to bear arms as PART OF A MILITIA TO PROTECT against enemies of the new States, NOT just as a matter of principle and just for the pleasure of owning a gun.

Secondly, according to you and your ilk, Fox News is the ONLY legitimate and accurate news available. That flies so hard in the face of logic as to be laughable. BBC News, Reuters, AP, UPI - not to mention ABC, NBC, CBS and CNN - are all reporting more or less the same thing. Funny how they can ALL be wrong. The foreign news services which I also read have no stakes in American politics and have no reason to lie or bend the truth.

[jjreding-2009]

mike71067:

First of all, the Second Amendment refers to the right of civilians to own weapons because the states had militias and that was what the Amendment addressed - the right of people to protect themselves against invasion from the British or Indians. Since there are NO militias today, this Amendment is severely outdated.

Wikipedia says: In 1786, a DECADE AFTER (emphasis added) the Declaration of Independence was signed, the United States existed as a loose national government under the Articles of Confederation. This confederation was perceived to have several weaknesses, among which was the inability to mount a Federal military response to an armed uprising in western Massachusetts known as Shays' Rebellion.

In 1787, to address these weaknesses, the Philadelphia Convention was convened with the charter of amending the Articles. When the convention concluded with a proposed Constitution, those who debated the ratification of the Constitution divided into two camps; the Federalists (who supported ratification of the Constitution) and the Anti-Federalists (who opposed it).

Among their objections to the Constitution, anti-Federalists feared creation of a standing army not under civilian control that could eventually endanger democracy and civil liberties as had happened recently in the American Colonies and Europe.

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[aaabee-2009]

"The enemy isn't liberalism, the enemy is not conservatism, the enemy is bullsht".
Columnist Lars-Erik Nelson (deceased)
Posted by tibu987 at 02:25 PM : Jul 23, 2007

Yes, and that same bullsht today tells those with no sense of thought to point their mindless hates at liberalism while the bullsht itself is free to do it's bullsht business. [Cough] Cheney [Cough]

Anyone who hates liberalism more than bullsht has missed the Thought Boat entirely. Neocons hate because they are TOLD to hate, and they hate WHAT they are told to hate, and they hate because they haven't explored the ADULT alternatives to hating, called compromise. Compromise made a two-party system of government great, pulling the best of both to the front, and quelling the worst. Until one party got greedy for more wealth and more power, more more more, so much so the GOP threatens to destabilize the best country in the world with greed for more than these 1% could ever use.

Thus is bullsht perpetuated by the haters of other folks personal freedoms, open dialogue, and progressive thought.

America was founded on freedom to worship, freedom of expression, and freedom of thought and no Neocon will ever define my freedom for me, whether we become a one-party dictatorship under King George or not.

America did one tea party to break away from a king, we can do another. :)

[ioweign]

perception5 wrote:
2.) The wealth gap in America is getting wider and experts say that is due to a "educational gap", in Detroit only 25% of that's city's school children (Kindergarten thru Grade 12) ever graduate. This deep blue city has been under "one party rule" for decades and generations. Why isn't the Democrat party "lifting" these poor people up?

"No Child Left Behind" should be called "No Child Gets a Dime". Underfunded and schools are teaching for the tests and not the KNOWLEDGE. The Republican push to a School Pay Voucher.

[ioweign]

perception5 wrote:
3.) Trial lawyers, one of the Democrats biggest donors, are "feeding off America's doctors and hospitals" causing "insurance rates to soar" and thus 47 million Americans are unable to afford health insurance. When are Democrats in our DO-NOTHING CONGRESS going to support "tort" reform?

Who controlled Congress back in 2003? For that matter let's go back to 2000!

Where is the free market spirit and small/less government now?

[down-ndirty]

I am an old timer who still carries the naive thought that all politicians and that includes the President and the Supreme Court, would always try to do what is right for ALL Americans.
Posted by tibu987 at 02:25 PM : Jul 23, 2007
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NOPE! Welcome to the day and age of the neo-conservativism and rule by dynasties. It's interesting that the neoconservative movement has attracted "an important and highly articulate group of liberasl to the other side." The main reason they are so effective is because they know liberalism from the inside out.

Reagan was a former liberal and (IMO) that's one of the reasons he was so effective against his opponents.

In today's political arena, most politicians on both sides of the aisle are "self serving." That is very obvious in the Bush and Clinton family dynasties and they manner in which they have achieved their wealth and political status.

After the 2008 elections there will be a complete turn-about in what they said compared to what they do.

And you can bet your asss that we will still be in Iraq four years from now. It's about the oil...

[down-ndirty]

Here's a question you will never hear being asked in tonight's Democrat debate:... Posted by perception5 at 02:34 PM : Jul 23, 2007
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That was four questions, dude.

Maybe, just maybe, because the country has had a repugnicant president for 20 of the last 28 years. LOL!!!

Why are the repugnicants allowing all these things to happen under their control? Perhaps because they just as corrupt, greedy, and morally bankrupt as the democrapps.

Besides, YOU don't really CARE about these things do you?

[mudrose-2009]

You're the Prophet of Doom, mudrose. Or the Prophet of Misinformation. Or both...


Posted by down-ndirty

Such insight, where did I go wrong? Kucinich, Paul, who are they?

[down-ndirty]

Picture this. A Congress in control of the Executive and Judicial Branches and the Clintoids who have found a way to get around the 2 term Presidency by rotating themselves first husband and then wife into a 16 year Presidency. Posted by mudrose at 01:29 PM : Jul 23, 2007
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Picture this: Ex-VP Daddy has a miserable 4-year failure of a presidency; embarassingly tromped by a philandering hillbilly from AR; the philandering hillbilly turns out to be the "best republican president since Lincoln;" Daddy's 'family' decides to groom 'renegade cowboy' son for the job; first they have to 'dry him out' after a 24-year alcoholic binge; in spite of his ineptness with the English language, son gets elected; gives his rich cronies a tax break, declares war on Iraq... The rest is current history.

Is there a dynasty here? You bet your asss. And it ain't just the Clintons. That's why I'm for Paul or Kucinich.

You're the Prophet of Doom, mudrose. Or the Prophet of Misinformation. Or both...