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The Nation: Valiant Iraq War Veterans Talk Of Abuses Against Iraqi Citizens

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by dogsoul July 13, 2007 4:24 PM EDT
"However, the Bush administration presented false evidence to congress"

It was the SAME evidence that convinced Clinton & the rest of the Democrats - the very same evidence that convinced Bush, in fact, while Clinton disagreed w/ Bush on certain tactical measures, he himself said that he would have absolutely invaded Iraq in a post 9/11 world... I know liberals' collective memory generally goes as far as the last headline, but people PLEASE! Point being that this whole liberal mantra the "Bush lied Bush lied" is absolute nonsensical banter that simply has to be applied against the overt facts. In fact, I WISH Clinton were in office post 9/11, because since according to Clinton himself - he would have also invaded Iraq - we would at LEAST have the support of BOTH liberals and conservatives... but since that is not the case, instead we are facing a united coalition between the American Left and Radical Islam to defeat Bush & the Republican Party... unfortunately for liberals (and every other American), while they may gain the Presidency, they'll have bolstered Islamic terrorism significantly in the long term...

And really, blaming 9/11 on Bush while he was in office a matter of months after 8 years of Clinton is like blaming a loss on the pitcher you put in the game during the bottom of the 9th instead of the one who gave up 26 runs thru the 8th inning....

There is no greater ally for Al Queda & radical Islam than the American Liberal & his media machine...
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by pugster July 13, 2007 3:49 PM EDT
It seems that Bush's 'gut feeling' that more troops in the ground will solve the world's problem.

All the loser conservatives like dogsoul can come up with quotes of democrats why Iraq has wmd. Unfortunately, Bush with his mis-intelligence was the person who pushed for the war in Iraq, not the Democrats. We can discuss about it all day, but we won't have a war with Iraq if Bush was not President.
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by ioweign July 13, 2007 3:42 PM EDT
Those of us who lived thru the Vietnam era knew these stories were only a matter of time. This is how CBS & Dan Rather made their reputations: smearing the military and servicemen & woman. Half-truths, mixed with out-right fabrications, and lies told by "veterans". First come the exaggerations, then the lies. Soon, every GI is a baby-killer, being spit on by the liberals when they come back from serving their country. Remember where this got the liberals when the dust finally settled in the '80s? Can't wait to see it happen all over again.
Posted by afsc30574 at 11:43 AM : Jul 13, 2007

I once worked next to a guy that said the Holocaust in World War II Nazi Germany never took place- but I don't think it is afsc30574, or is it?
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by antoniof123 July 13, 2007 3:03 PM EDT
You can not blame the press this is reality afsc30574 you were in Viet Nam I take it, I doubt it because this did happen there and nothing was settled in the 80's only in the mind of the right wing facist party. It is over with this time around I am not going to back down nor is so many more that have suffered. Wing nuts leave that way we would solve two problems one the IQ of America would rise and two the population would decrease.
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by afsc30574 July 13, 2007 2:43 PM EDT
Those of us who lived thru the Vietnam era knew these stories were only a matter of time. This is how CBS & Dan Rather made their reputations: smearing the military and servicemen & woman. Half-truths, mixed with out-right fabrications, and lies told by "veterans". First come the exaggerations, then the lies. Soon, every GI is a baby-killer, being spit on by the liberals when they come back from serving their country. Remember where this got the liberals when the dust finally settled in the '80s? Can't wait to see it happen all over again.
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by ioweign July 13, 2007 2:26 PM EDT
dogsoul -

March 3, 1999
In explaining to Gulf War veterans why he chose not to pursue the war further, President Bush said, "Whose life would be on my hands as the commander-in-chief because I, unilaterally, went beyond the international law, went beyond the stated mission, and said we're going to show our macho? We're going into Baghdad. We're going to be an occupying power %u2014 America in an Arab land %u2014 with no allies at our side. It would have been disastrous." -Wikipedia
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by neoconrcrazy July 13, 2007 2:21 PM EDT
the enemy within ?

must be referring to bushit and warmongering henchmen - they're the real enemy.



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by katg21 July 13, 2007 2:16 PM EDT
dogsoul,
And they say Bush lied? Thanks for shoving the facts in their faces; doesn't matter though, they'll dismiss it as usual.
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by terrapin78 July 13, 2007 2:15 PM EDT
and USBrit the world has NOT totally turned against America.. perhaps you should go to Iraq yourself and see the conditions these poor soldiers live under, and the lack of sleep that they get..far away from loved ones..
Posted by Gaye5 at 06:58 AM : Jul 13, 200

And as a supporter of the war, what the heck are you doing still here in the US? You should have volunteered for the US military and be on active duty in Iraq.

You do realize that the press is sequestered in the green zone, unable to venture out on their own because there is so much chaos that anyone (especially Americans) not in armored vehicles die.
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by marcodele July 13, 2007 1:43 PM EDT
And I doubt if it was anything said by anyone in the Clinton administration that caused Bush's decision to invade Iraq.

After all, both he and his national security advisor completely ignored the bi-partisan report on terrorism that warned that american buildings were going to be attacked by terrorists using planes as weapons.

The neocons are running out of excuses for the BUsh administration. All they can do is reply with "But Clinton...."
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