Comments on: Michael Moore's Imperfect Diagnosis

The New Republic: "Sicko" Has Its Flaws, But Is Also A Compelling Indictment Of U.S. Health Care

[lestb35]

cozzicon, you are a bonafide whiner. good god man grow up, talk to your parents or grandparents sometime about life and it's hardships as for the rest of us spare us your whining. Health insurance is expensive. For those of us who can afford it, it's stupid not ot buy it for those who can't sign up for welfare or check with state. I'm happy that you'll be making the big bucks as an IT executive and will therefore be paing for my healthcare someday on this universal program.

[cozzicon]

"cozzicon,we all have a health insurance story. I mean, we ALL have a health insurance story. The reality is, it's EXPENSIVE. Just like homes are expensive but you kow you're better off hving health insurance and living in a small apt. Get the best you can afford which tends to go up with age. The most interesting part of your story is that you spent so much time unemployed while we were bringing in Hb1 visa emplyees. What's wrong with that picture."-- Posted by lestb35

1. If you think hb1 visa employees are brought in as IT Directors, ummm... well then you are ignorant. There's not a single American company I've ever seen bring a foreigner under hb1 into an executive position. Perhaps there are a few out in Silicon valley. But not in old school corporate America.

2. You keep offering "pat" answers... "Buy Health Insurance" or your now classic "Everyone's got a health insurance story".... In my case it was a "NO HEALTH INSURANCE STORY".

That story.... ain't so pretty. Because it's not being denied a portion of your coverage, it's not having to wait, it's not the loss of a copay. It's NOTHING.

It's a bronchitis attack, that turns into pneumonia, which scars your lungs permanently... Or it's cancer.... or it's heart disease... or it's acid reflux....

And of course the bills to go with it, the need for food, a roof, and making $26,000 a year.

Try it sometime.

[strewthmate]

listen up folks...

the concept isn't that hard to grasp,

universal health care for all, for life, without profit as the motive.

Great work Mike!!!

[wiredwilly]

To exploit people's suffering for the sake of profit is simply wrong.
It is time for action. Write your Representative demanding the United States get in step with countries that are actually civilized and provide Universal Healthcare for all.

[lestb35]

cozzicon,we all have a health insurance story. I mean, we ALL have a health insurance story. I know our state has low income subsidized health insurance. The self-employed have always dealt with the dilemna and most hve figured out the system. The reality is, it's EXPENSIVE. Just like homes are expensive but you kow you're better off hving health insurance and living in a small apt. Get the best you can afford which tends to go up with age. The most interesting part of your story is that you spent so much time unemployed while we were bringing in Hb1 visa emplyees. What's wrong with that picture.

[cozzicon]

"Why don't you just but health insurance like the rest of us? Then you don't have to make a martyr out of yourself by robbing a bank." --Posted by lestb35

Ya know, I just spent 6 years without health insurance because of the tech downturn after 9/11. My business, network design and internet security, died after 9/11. I spent 2002 and 2003 making $100.00 a month.

You would think a person who carried the job title "ENGINEER" would easily be able to find work. Wasn't to be. I was over qualified for almost anything I could find.

I lost my home, almost lost my car, and had to rely on the goodness of people who cared about me during those times. I ate out of other people's pockets for a long time.

It was sad.

In February 2004 I got my first consulting contract, it was a very small one. About $26,000 a year, one week a month travel, That lasted until the middle of 2006, when I finally was retained by a corporation as the IT Director.

Sadly, the deduction for my insurance was too high compared to my debt load from being unemployed, so I couldn't afford insurance.

Then... this last week. I got insurance. But I needed to see a doctor in 2005. And didn't. Was denied care. And now I'm sicker for it.

True story.

[cozzicon]

"The next thing you know, people charged with crimes will be given FREE legal help.

Things like this just shouldn't happen in conservative Christian Republican countries." --Posted by NeoConnie


I hope that was a joke. I'm not really sure.

If it wasn't a joke, please stay out of my neighborhood.

[ianlou]

When are we going to start looking at ourselves and what we put into our own bodies, or what we don't, as the main culprit of an ailing health care system? When Michael Moore and Al Gore start to look healthy, maybe I'll begin to take them more seriously.
Posted by spiel1958 at 02:56 PM : Jun 22, 2007

spiel1958, Pull your head out of your Gym Bag!

[ianlou]

Spiel is right. Michael Moore is fat, so whatever he says about health care cannot be accurate.
Every good Christian knows that all fates are deserved.
Posted by NeoConnie at 02:59 PM : Jun 22, 2007

NeoConnie, You crack me up!
Stir the pot, Stir The Pot, STIR THE POT!!

[xzavierbrown]

I agree with Xavier that liberals should have to pay for everything, including the Iraq war.

If Clinton hadn't hadn't done the nasty in the oval office, none of this would have happened.

Rush is right.
Posted by NeoConnie at 04:33 PM : Jun 22, 2007
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the paying part is not the problem..it is WHEN IT COMES TO PAYING for thier own agenda..then tend to back out..remember the infamous california governor recall??the liberal Democrat governor was replaced because he was taxing the predominatly liberal state of california. taxes that is needed to pay as a result of thier own crusades. Now for the Iraq war..let us not fool ourselves..we are there for the oil..you think you are against the war in iraq because you care about the iraqi people..BULL CR AP!! you dont, you dont care about the people in middle east to that matter or else you would be so nauseated with yourself everytime you pump your gas. I bet you dont even get that flash of guilt when you fill up that SUV.

The clinton thing is in the past..yes it would had been great if he unglued his arse out of that fu ck bed and got osama when he was offered by sudan on a silver platter.BUT that is in the past, so if we are going to be bogged down with dealing with terrorists over 'the what if and he/she should had', then we are fu cked immaculately.

[ubrew12]

Every private industry that exploits a market niche (like health care) needs a government agency to agressively 'police' it, or it eventually makes excess profits on the hardship of its customers. The health industry has proven itself unwilling or unable to be properly policed, so I believe it will be nationalized. I prefer the single-payer system that other countries do so well with. Kudos to Moore for shining a light on this.

[lestb35]

Under a universal health care system does Moore have to pay higher taxes because he's fat? Are people going to be limited to 2 kids or will they give those of us who don't reproduce a tax credit?
What about extreme athletes do they pay more taxes becaue they have more broken bones and if we don't use the system at all can we not pay any taxes? I don't think I should have to pay for a fat person who won't stop eating at McDonalds and is going to have diabetes, and heart attack.

[lestb35]

If I needed an operation and I don't have health insurance, I might as well commit a crime because apparantly prison inmates don't have to pay for their healthcare.
Posted by pug_ster at 05:59 PM : Jun 22, 2007


Why don't you just but health insurance like the rest of us? Then you don't have to make a martyr out of yourself by robbing a bank.

[monkfellow]

Say,France is a great model.."free" healthcare,but 14% unemployment,a meritocracy that hearkens back to Louis XIV and businesses headed for the evil empire, aka The US of A!
Maybe health care is supposedly better there because there are fewer people,but I wonder what their immigrant underground would have to say.
About the last thing is the mindset that runs our imaginative and ambitious public schools, the VA,King-Drew Hospital in Los Angeles(where you can get stepped on and over in the ED for no additional charge).
I love the Cuban connection. I imagine Moore went to the prisons where the hundreds of Castro's "dissidents" in the worker's paradise are availed all the "free" health care they can handle while they rot for 20-30 years.
Michael Moore is a stupid clown.

[talkingham]

AND I'm totally SICKO of the liars who will never see the movie yet claim it is full of lies. Go lie to your lying selves! Moore's 911 movie was far mroe truthful than the lies Bush spouted and contrived to get us in that war that is lining the pockets of chicken hawks who cry the loudest to send you sons and daughters to a fake, lying war.

I was Vietnam era US Army and I've seen this all before!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[pugster]

If I needed an operation and I don't have health insurance, I might as well commit a crime because apparantly prison inmates don't have to pay for their healthcare.

[talkingham]

dill hole, you don't work for health care you work for money- that's one fo the things wrong with this god-for-saken country besides so-called, self-described christian conservatives.

[talkingham]

dill hole, you don't work for health care you work for money- that's one fo the things wrong with this god-for-saken country besides so-called, self-described christian conservatives.

[hypnotoad72]

redhoffer - people who claim to be Christian yet support anti-Christian activities have a lot to answer for.

xzavierbrown - true, Moore only cares about his bank account. That's why I avoid anything political that costs money to read or join up. I know better. Most people blindly follow a silver tongued hypocrite and rag on anyone who dares say "Excuse me, but this tidbit over here suggests your hero is false".

Either way, whomever wins is the person we're going to have to answer to, in America at any rate. Let's hope that candidate thinks Americans are more than disposable trash can fodder (e.g. the job crisis...)

[neoconnie]

Our president makes all his important decisions by consulting with the holy ghost. He has never had divine guidance to initiate universal health care for people outside of Iraq. I trust his judgment and my faith.