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by brianbwb-2009 June 22, 2007 12:09 PM EDT
to gkc99,

Where did I "blame it on the Jews"? Where did I say they were the sole cause?

I quoted Sharon because his unapologetically recalcitrant position re expanding the occupation contributed more to the problem than to the solution. Just as Bushit's "shoot first, and dodge questions later" approach further exacerbates it.

The habit of some to advocate "ethnic cleansing" solutions to circumstances adverse to their deluded dreams of world domination, or at least regional domination has been with us throughout history, none have been successful.

Even if there were no oil, or Middle East problems, if everyone on Earth were Christian, someone would soon call for a purge of Catholics, or Protestants, (Ireland) there would still be some knuckle walkers out there looking for another avenue to sublimate their repressed sexual frustration.

The cycle of violence will never be broken as long as we allow idiots like our current "leaders" to act on their delusions, somewhere we must say enough, and put them out of office.

The key is to recognize the peoples' legitimate grievances and address them, not just say "get over it"...
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by closethippy June 22, 2007 12:07 PM EDT
As a Palestinian I find it laughable that not even that traitor Abbas and his unelected corrupted hunchmen can find sympathy in the US, the very country he sold his soul to. The freaking b'stard.
Abbas can kiss behind all he wants but he's a freaking fool if he thinks that's going to get him anywhere here in the US.
Abbas should have figure out what Arafat understood: Palestine is not yet a sovereign nation, not even close to it, and as such you cannot behave like the head of free state.
Imagine if George Washington followed the adivce of King George and banned armed militias under the pretense that no decent country has militias running around creating havoc.
If you're fighting for your independence you have to have militias. Period.
Abbas The Traitor has painted himself into a corner: If he doesn't deliver independence he'll be seen for the fool that he is and we'll behead the idiot.
Does he really think that now Israel is willing to let the 300,000 Palestinians in East Jerusalem have freedom and make it our capital? What about the refugees? Will Israel even let us have control of our own borders, airspace, sea shores and water resources?
Abbas is on borrowed time and I'm sure the US, Israel and those European wimps will do their best to buy him time by setting up negotiations and more negotiations.
But this time if Abbas doesn't deliver right away he's minced meat. I just hope I can grind him myself.
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by gkc99 June 22, 2007 11:39 AM EDT
brianbwb,

what Ariel Sharon says is scant justification for the all-too-common leftie problem of blaming the middle east situation on the Jews. Plenty of Israelis think Sharon is an idiot. And let it be said that I despise Bush and am his constant critic. Yet attending anti-war rallies it has become clear that a nasty strain of anti-Jewish bigotry has taken hold in the left. And, recent surveys show that Blacks have among the most prevalent anti-Jewish attitudes in the country. You all are right up there with the "Aryan Nations."

The neocons may use Israel to rally support, but their real interest is domination of the world's largest oil reserves. There are a lot of posters on CBS that cant' seem to grasp that. It's all too easy to blame Israel, and feeds the anti-Jewish bigotry that is close to the surface in many whites and blacks. But it's more dangerous for blacks because, as I point in in probably a too-subtle manner for you to grasp, the righties typically want to purge the "commies, q***rs, n*****s, and Jews" all together. You'll be on the same cattle car with the Jews you despise. Wise up!
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by brianbwb-2009 June 22, 2007 11:29 AM EDT
to neoconRcrazy,

All the hallmarks of the fall are certainly present, as they also were just before the fall of the Soviet Union, unchecked corruption, paralysed government, led by delusional characters. It is all there, the fat lady is indeed warming up.

The difference is that we have detailed history as a guide, and with it, intelligent people can find a way to avert this fate.

Too bad intelligent people want no part of politics.

I can see the US breaking up into regional entities, there will be territorial, and ethnic violence (see gkc99, such neanderthals are still shuffling among us) as it was in the former Soviet Union states.

It doesn't have to happen, it can be avoided, but I fear there is no one able to build a big enough following to take position to do the necessary things.
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by brianbwb-2009 June 22, 2007 11:20 AM EDT
to gkc99,

you write, "Or maybe we native-born white Aryans should get rid of two big problems at once and purge y'all?"

This is indeed the flawed hubris of Bush's uneducated followers. I personally am not a Muslim. I do, however remember the same tactics of agitprop and "pre-emptive" murder practiced on innocent Black Americans on the streets of 60s and 70s Detroit, so this is nothing new. It didn't work then, it won't work now.

The words you say are "blaming it on the Jews" are not mine, they are Ariel Sharon's own words, quoted on Israel radio read carefully, you can move your lips if that helps.

You "native-born white Aryans" have tried for generations, and failed, to achieve Hitler's dream, and will always fail.
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by neoconrcrazy June 22, 2007 11:03 AM EDT
so I guess I'm not eligible...
Posted by brianbwb


your post made me think back to Roman history, end of the Republic, hundred years or so leading up to Caesar's arrival.

there was still a "democratic" process going on but the amount of money being spent on elections was staggering - candidates would often go into debt, or allow themselves to be financed (for a price of course), or were very rich already.

when we look at our political process today; we see alot of money being spent, candidates accepting financing from interest groups, even more subtle "think tanks" financed by extremely wealthy individuals - proposing, even succeeding in implimenting policy.

there are parallels - are we approaching the end of our Republic too ?



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by gkc99 June 22, 2007 10:54 AM EDT
Brianbwb sez:
"But I do have a plan for . . . ending the influence of the neocon neanderthals that promote division for personal gain.

"It seems they also control your mind, I trust you were paid well for it..."


But blaming it all on the Jews has nothing to do with promoting division, eh brian?

Maybe the problem is all the Black Muslims acting as a 5th column in the USA? Or maybe we native-born white Aryans should get rid of two big problems at once and purge y'all?
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by brianbwb-2009 June 22, 2007 10:49 AM EDT
to bill1fj,

And I did indeed have sexual relations with women, and enjoyed that, also...

But I do have a plan for ending the war, improving health care and education for all, reducing the crime rate, and restoring America's prosperity, making sure it comes on a more equitable level for all citizens, restoring our rights, and ending the influence of the neocon neanderthals that promote division for personal gain.
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by brianbwb-2009 June 22, 2007 10:41 AM EDT
to bill1fj,

I would run, but I am not a gazillionaire, I an Black, Independent, and in my youth I smoked pot, inhaled and enjoyed it, so I guess I'm not eligible...
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by brianbwb-2009 June 22, 2007 10:37 AM EDT
to McCarthy

"I want to tell you something very clear, don't worry about American pressure on Israel, we, the Jewish people control America, and the Americans know it."
Ariel Sharon to Shimon Peres, October 3rd, 2001, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio."

It seems they also control your mind, I trust you were paid well for it...

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