Comments on: Graham's Crusade Saved America

Weekly Standard: Former President Underscores Importance Of Evangelical Leader's Role

[estuardo40]

Why did Graham not say "take that $27 million and help the poor!!!!" Can you say ego?


Posted by jimfinster at 11:38 AM : Jun 11, 2007

BTW, if you watch the accompanying video from Byron Pitts, you would find out that this wasn't built to honor him (my mistake), but for others to see and hear the message of the Gospel. If someone sees this as a tribute to him, instead of Jesus, then that's their fault, not his.

As far as the money goes, If one soul is saved from 'this library', then 27 million dollars was well spent!!

[jimfinster]

estuardo40:

So what if it was private donations?

Why did Graham not say "take that $27 million and help the poor!!!!" Can you say ego?

[estuardo40]

I believe Billy Graham would be embarrassed by how this and other articles 'puff' up his life. He is truly one of the most humblest men left on this earth (President Carter, a close second).

As far as being rich, that's not true either.
This library was built from private donations from those who wanted to honor him.

Billy is truly a servant of God. Of all the people of our time who deserve honor, he should be at the top of the list.

God Bless you, Billy!

[tejasdemo]

Wow

[ammianus]

%u201CFascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victim-hood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.%u201D

R. O. Paxton, The Anatomy of Fascism, Vintage Books, 2005, p.218.

[ioweign]

The American Taliban!!

[marcodele]

Organized religion is one of the most dangerous aspects of our society. It has become a corporate entity completely detached from moral values and for sale to the highest bidder.

[andor3]

Of course the Weekly Standard and politicians love ol' Billy--he was key in perverting christianity so it could fit into the capitalist-political-religious money machine that has destroyed much of America's true values. They're all in the same club, eating at the same table, exploiting the same system.

True Christians were homeless and lived on handouts and made fun of people who worried about money and possessions. Those Christians weren't very useful to capitalists!

[ubrew12]

"Bringing religion into the politial sphere has done alot of damage to this country."Posted by neoconRcrazy at 06:16 AM : Jun 11, 2007

I so agree! The advantage of religion is 'never having to say you're sorry'. Its an attempt to banish shame when engaging in predatory behavior. Here are some things that I think are shameful about modern American society that undoubting 'true believers' have helped create:
1. Handing your kids a $10 trillion debt to pay for your administrations.
2. Invading countries like Iraq when peaceful solutions to their WMD exist.
3. Ignoring Global Warming as if faith alone would make it go away.
4. Buying Chinese instead of American to such a degree that your currency devalues and your own laborers fall to Third World status.
5. Eviscerating the judicial branch of government, who alone represent the codified morality of your past.
6. Torture.

Just being human causes us to recoil from committing such predatory behavior. But if you're a true believer, it's OK. It's a win-win. The only loser is 750,000 Iraqi's whom you'll never have to face thanks to a news block-out.

[grumpas]

SO again I say, it's not about "religion", it's about Jesus Christ.

He loves you, He paid the price for you, and He offers you a free gift of eternal life simply for believing in Him.

It's really that simple.

It has NOTHING to do with religion at all.
Posted by singinrick

Isn't that what your 'Lord Jesus Christ' is all about is religion???????? If he isn't religion what is he???? Jesus Christ is only mentioned in the Bible which is the Christian religion! No where else in history do you find the name! He is exclusive to the Bible! And you missed your calling singinrick! You should have been Baptist evangelist sweaty brow, bible waving and all! That's all that comes out of your mouth are the same old religious rhetoric your head has been filled with! You are about as nauseating as most of them.

[rushlimpdrug]

A Billy Graham Library in Charlotte, N.C ?

Guess Jesus came in 2nd.

I'm still waiting for the Swaggart Library - yeah baby! !

[jjp735i]

ROFLMAO He saved America. He fleeced his flock for the cash he could get.

[luvny-2009]

So I ask you again, how does building a $27 million dollar temple to yourself follow the biblical teachings of christ???

Can you say Franklin, he's all about the money!

[naturaltwo]

I like how these Pharisees of Evanginazism think only they know Jesus and God. I believe Cain thought the same way and then stabbed his brother in the back.

I believe it was Jesus who said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." I don't remember Jesus saying homosexuality was a sin.

But these eveangelistas of evanginazism do. They have the same notion of God that Cain did.

I believe in God, accept Jesus, and know these charlatans of evangelism know neither.

[neoconrcrazy]

We're back to old discussion; God and politics.

For me they're mutually exclusive.

Keep god out of Congress, and Congress out of the church (or temple, or whatever).

Bringing religion into the politial sphere has done alot of damage to this country.

Some years ago nobody would dare ask another: Do you believe in Jesus Christ the Saviour?

Everyone had their "religious freedom", in private, in their families, their communities.

Now you have to take out full page color ads professing your "moral judeo-christian values"
otherwise you'll be degraded, de-humanized, discriminated.

So, if you don't mind, Jesus and I have a private relationship - so get your moralistic noses kindly out of my face. Thank you.

[brianbwb-2009]

Still some of you don't get it do you, the man claims to be a religious leader, while chumming up with the first Hitler of the twenty first century.

Anyone claiming to believe in the God that sent the ten commandments, among which are,

don't lie (WMD, Al Qaeda, etc)
don't steal (tax money funneled to friends)
don't kill (uncounted Iraqis, 3500+ Americans to date)
don't covet (oil)
no idols (crosses)
Observe a holy day (who can afford to?)

while supporting and seeking alliance with a head of state guilty of breaking almost all of them, is clearly not what he presumes himself to be.

[jimfinster]

singinrick:

Nice try, but it is not about me. It is about Billy. I don't claim to be a christian, he does.

So I ask you again, how does building a $27 million dollar temple to yourself follow the biblical teachings of christ???

[elz523]

It is too bad. I had always thought better of Rev. Graham. I didn't know he was responsible for the idiocracy of the religous right.


Imagine that. Another piece of trash from the Weekly Standard. Check you brain at the door.

[cs4466]

As long as mankind, as a species, is enslaved to religion of any kind, the basic problems that come with it will persist.
Belief in an unseen, inevident, unproven (and, of course, unprovable) and inevitably intangible God or Gods is an artifice of Man. It has but one true purpose: manipulation. The manipulation of social standards, the manipulation of power and manipulation of the most basic fear of all - the fear of the unknown.
Until we all learn to respect one another as individuals of inherent value, to be admired for who and what we are and finally drop all this nonsense (Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Mormonism or whatever the flavor of the month is now) and resolve ourselves to the simple truth that we DO NOT know what happens to our consciousness when we die and we DO NOT know why we are here and finally accept the fact that we simply ARE, we will be burdened by this dark aspect of human nature which is to manipulate and dominate others through power. In this case, the power of faith.
Heaven. Hell. Wrong. Right. These absolutes do not exist in our universe. We have created them ourselves. Is your adherence to your morals simply based on the mythological threat of divine retribution and justice, or does it come from within? Strive to achieve a purity of respect for yourself and others. That isn't faith, it is the evolution of our species.

[jimfinster]

singinrick

This is a $27 million temple to Billy Graham. How does that demonstrate christian values?

How many ill and starving children could that have helped? How many orphanages would that have built? How does this demonstrate a humble man?