Comments on: Failing Our Future Immigrants

The Nation: Legislation Would Create Permanent Underclass, Hurt All Low-Wage Workers

[likeitis5050]

It sucks. They aren't doing anything that favors anyone but them. It's all going to backfire in their faces.

They don't have the stones to do what is really best because they have too many voters who will be angry. Newsflash...they're angry anyway.

All this because immigration stopped doing its job years ago. Now we have a million+ illegals 'unaccounted for' and suddenly our government is at a loss as how to track them down. What a bunch of idiots. These are the people we're trusting in foreign affairs, national security, and a host of other 'deal breakers' for Americans.

[sharncedar]

The Nation says: "The tragedy is that immigration reform could have been the occasion for improving the entire low-wage labor market, protecting the rights of all workers and preventing the exploitation of the undocumented that thrives in the shadows."


Maybe it could have cured the common cold too. Maybe its not too late, if we let 40 million more Hispanics trash our laws and culture, we might still get all those wonderful benefits, maybe we'll get a wonderful utopia to live in, a utopia for the working class, sort of like Mexico, that wonderful utopian society. All right, Nation, keep up the smart thinking! !

[socrates392]

"From the melting pot of life in this free land all men and woman of all nations who come hither emerge as Americans and nothing else."

Posted by SouthMsDixon at 06:18 PM : May 29, 2007

Have you ever heard of dual citizenship? It's quite common. Somehow I have a feeling you don't care if someone has dual Canadian/American citizenship or dual Australian/American citizenship . . . But the whole idea of dual Mexican/American citizenship is simply abhorent to you isn't it? All those brown people saying the pledge of allegiance in Spanish just makes your skin crawl, doesn't it.

Well, get off it. It is a well established fact that people can have allegiance to two countries and nothing ill comes of it.

Honestly, there are lots of reasons to oppose illegal immigration, but this whole one-fatherland mumbo jumbo isn't one of them. I don't care who you quote-- God, Teddy Roosevelt, or the commisioner of baseball-- its still wrong.

[southmsdixon]

"From the melting pot of life in this free land all men and woman of all nations who come hither emerge as Americans and nothing else. They must have renounced completely and without reserve all allegiance to the land from which they or their forefathers came. And it is a binding duty on every citizen of this country in every important crisis to act solidly with all his fellow Americans, having regard only to the honor and interest of America, treating every other nation purely on its conduct in that crisis, without reference to his ancestral predilections or antipathies. If he does not act, he is false to the teachings and lives of Washington and Lincoln; he is not entitled to any part or lot in our country and he should be sent out of it." - - (Theodore Roosevelt, "The Children of the Crucible" New York, Sept. 9, 1917)

[katg21]

hypnotoad72,
Feel the same as you; also from that generation. I am so confused by this bill! What the hell is happening to our country?!!!

[nottellin1]

I heard that these republicans are afraid that they will lose the hispanic vote if they don't vote in favor of the bill. I'm really beginning to hate politics!
Posted by katg21 at 05:10 PM : May 29, 2007

If politicians really think they will get new voters from this, they haven't looked at the stats from Mexico's elections: They are that only 46% of eligible voters do indeed vote and the voters are probably not the type of people the emigrate.

[hypnotoad72]

katg21 - funny, isn't it? Our own Attorney General wants to put in understandably harsh policies for breaking certain laws... and I believe obeying the law is a good thing to do -- do not get me wrong on that.

Yet many politicians want to give amnesty to up to 20 million LAWBREAKERS? And give more job opportunities to people in countries with piracy records so astoundingly high...

Confused? So am I.

Next thing we know, Paris and Lindsay and the other thoughtless vermin who, under-aged or not, going out drinking and drugging and risking other peoples' lives* will be let go, free from serving time justly due for their dangerous acts of stupidity.

They can kill themselves and hang around with people who will more than likely turn them into scapegoats for drug possession, but they sure as H-E-L-L should stay away from hard working decent folks who want to do a good job and better themselves and society, and be given chances in return. Ideally, these kids need to grow up. This "Generation Y" seems to be more like "Generation Whine". (FWIW, I'm of generation X; whatever that means as many of my characteristics are alien of that lot as well, including loyalty and dedication... two dead traits in today's business world and Country in general too, it seems.)

[nottellin1]

I agree with what I heard someone say this past weekend......if they sign this amnesty bill, it will mean the death of the republican party.
Posted by Infidel_US at 04:29 PM : May 29, 2007

More like "if they sign this bill it will be the death of America as we know i.

[katg21]

These illegals are getting more from our government then our own starving, poor american citizens. I don't want one cent of my money going to these crooks. There is no other country in the world who is more generous to the illegals then we are; it's time for that to end. They need to obey our laws, just as you and I have to , or get out.

[cpaide]

We totally disprected the native americans and stole their land (illegally) and killed them (illegally) and threw their decendants off the land (llegally) and took it for ourselves (illegally).

Posted by glb1969

I assume you're a member of the murderous Hispanic Race that exterminated millions of Natives long before Anglos arrived in America.

I too am sorry for what your people did, and I am thankful that the Americans rescued the Native peoples from the Hispanics.

Please leave this country and go back to Mexico or wherever you came from.

[katg21]

The comments of cbslogin12 represent an unreasoned, bigoted, unfair, and hateful perspective. The country must rise above the level of those seeking retribution on immigrants. Let us show the world what the US is really about, welcoming all to live together as best we can, rather than the cbslogin12 perspective of penalizing them for the same actions our ancestors took.
Posted by glb1969 at 03:10 PM : May 29, 2007


Yeah, let's continue to show the world how STUPID we are by letting these people walk all over our laws and take advantage of us. Makes a lot of sense.

[katg21]

I agree with what I heard someone say this past weekend......if they sign this amnesty bill, it will mean the death of the republican party.
Posted by Infidel_US at 04:29 PM : May 29, 2007

I heard that these republicans are afraid that they will lose the hispanic vote if they don't vote in favor of the bill. I'm really beginning to hate politics!

[infidel_us]

I agree with what I heard someone say this past weekend......if they sign this amnesty bill, it will mean the death of the republican party.

[krenz4]

Our ancestors did NOT Swim from Ellis island and sneak into the country!! They stood in line to be processed legally to enter. The fence jumpers we see now should NOT be welcomed with open arms. Where would America be if we just allowed anyone who got here the right to stay, no proof, no paperwork, nothing but a bus ride from the border to the welfare office! America has, and should continue to open its arms to those folks who come here and are able to prove who they are and be willing to contribute to AMERICAN society. Not to those who just want a cheap or free ride. Not to those who dont want to speak the language, or those who just want to cheat me out of my American Dream.

[frankinaz]

Not only do the illegal immigrants have no respect for the law, but neither do the businesses that hire these people. Greed, lying and corruption are rewarded on both sides of the U. S./Mexico border. Couple that with the Federal Government's lax attitude and all but non-enforcement of its immigration laws, and its no wonder that this country has an expensive and complex mess to solve. There needs to be controls over who is allowed to enter this country, and that entry should only be allowed if its legal.
Its time to punish illegal immigrants and the businesses that hire them, and not reward both parties for breaking the law-Discourage illegal
immigration, not encourage the practice!

[glb1969]

We totally disprected the native americans and stole their land (illegally) and killed them (illegally) and threw their decendants off the land (llegally) and took it for ourselves (illegally).

With this historical precedent, we owe a debt of honour to each and every individual seeking to live amongst us in this country. Anyone who disagrees is hypocrite and needs to learn about the atrocities we committed on those who were here first.

The comments of cbslogin12 represent an unreasoned, bigoted, unfair, and hateful perspective. The country must rise above the level of those seeking retribution on immigrants. Let us show the world what the US is really about, welcoming all to live together as best we can, rather than the cbslogin12 perspective of penalizing them for the same actions our ancestors took.

[cathaleen]

This is all because of the farmers. They need the illegals to work their farms where they are treated like slaves. They pay them nil and work them like dogs.
We should send all illegals back. We have enough buses.
We expect all other people around the world to take the legal track to citizenship. Why can't the mexicans?

[cbslogin12]

I don't care if a person who wants to immigrate to our country pays a fine. What I do care about is that each individual be willing to go through the process legally and abide by our laws. Each immigrant should be screened not in one hour but as long as it takes to verify who is requesting entrance.

We should not provide a path to citizenship to the illegals already here. They have shown NO respect for our laws. They have behaved selfishly. There is a right way and a wrong way to do everything. Do we really want to welcome those who do not care about anything but themselves? Their actions are a slap in the face to every LEGAL immigrant who came here the hard way.