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The Nation: Those Who Preach Abstinence Are Often Hypocrites, But The Policy Itself Is Even Worse
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- You know.. the start of this article says the american people were ahead of congress on the war, and the farse of abstinance. Human nature dictates that teens will engage in sexual behavior with or without *** education, and with or without religious morals. Its documented in study after study.
Christianity teaches us that we should turn the other cheek and the leaders use a "holier than thou" approach to preaching to the masses. Yet our leaders who are overwhelmingly christian will still war for frivilous and immoral purposes.
But I guess religion as a whole has its purpose. After all. Our leaders might just have told the truth and said we are taking out saddam for financial reasons rather than masking the truth with a moral lie..
Kids are ahead of adults just as the people are ahead of congress. kids won't will heed the calls of abstinance about as much as our leaders heed the teachings of christianity.. So I say.. if they are going to do it, the best we can do is educate them! - Reply to this comment
- Christian conservatives never met a scientific discipline they didn't want to ignore and go with their divine inspiration instead: biology (evolution), climatology (global warming), counter-terrorism (Iraq Wars effect on the Islamic terror threat), *** education (abstinence). Put 'em all together and these people are costing society ALOT. Folks, we get the fact that you love God. But ignoring the advice of people WHOSE BUSINESS IT IS to scientifically study certain disciplines is wrongheaded and increasingly expensive to the rest of us.
Find another way to feel powerful about your conversion to Christ. - Reply to this comment
- Abstinence should still be taught in school's today, along with "safe" ***. One does not have to be religious to abstain, especially in high school where most teenagers are not ready for the responsibilities that come with an unwanted pregnancy.
Condoms and other birth control methods are not 100% effective. There is only one sure way to avoid getting pregnant, absitence. That is a scientific fact. Also it's really difficult to get a STD if one abstains.
Teenagers need to know that they have a choice, that they do not have to give into peer pressure. They need to know that their choices do come with consequences, be they good or bad.
I believe that parents should be the ones talking to their kids, and they need to start a lot sooner than they think. Unfortunately a lot of parents have dropped the ball on this one, so it's up to schools to fill in the gap. - Reply to this comment
- Yet another reason to ban religion.
Posted by roger3815 at 01:09 PM : May 12, 2007
Nobody's forcing you to go to church. Why do you even care to comment.It doesn't affect you. - Reply to this comment
- Yet another reason to ban religion.
Posted by roger3815 at 01:09 PM : May 12, 2007
Nobody's forcing you to go to church. Why do you even care to comment.It doesn't affect you. - Reply to this comment
- Yet another reason to ban religion.
Posted by roger3815 at 01:09 PM : May 12, 2007
Nobody's forcing you to go to church. Why do you even care to comment.It doesn't affect you. - Reply to this comment
- Yet another reason to ban religion.
Posted by roger3815 at 01:09 PM : May 12, 2007
Nobody's forcing you to go to church. Why do you even care to comment.It doesn't affect you. - Reply to this comment
- Yet another reason to ban religion.
Posted by roger3815 at 01:09 PM : May 12, 2007
Nobody's forcing you to go to church. Why do you even care to comment.It doesn't affect you. - Reply to this comment
- Yet another reason to ban religion.
Posted by roger3815 at 01:09 PM : May 12, 2007
Nobody's forcing you to go to church. Why do you even care to comment.It doesn't affect you. - Reply to this comment
- This is so sad it's funny.
Abstinence should be in the curriculum along with modern protection methods. Information from the government shouldn't omit information because of the religious bias of anyone. This is information that saves lives. And for those who do not/or cannot abstain dispensing information in a biased manner is discrimination.
As far as prostitution goes... for Pete's sake let's just legalize it. We waste too much time in this country arguing about how many angels fit on a pinhead. Can we move on now?
It's always been fairly interesting to me that I can legally get a massage from a licensed therapist- as long as they don't touch me "there".
What two people do in private in a consensual manner doesn't seem to me to be something we should be legislating. - Reply to this comment
- Yet another reason to ban religion.
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- I see things like this:
Human intimate relations are something that everyone *needs*. Very few people abstain and many of those who claim to- don't.
It's best to give people all the facts, and the biblical "facts" need to come from a church and not the government. People should be at liberty to make their own decisions without being manipulated by selective omissions from government programs designed to usurp the separation of church and state.
As far as the whole prostitution thing goes... for Pete's sake... legalize it. Who cares? Whatever two people consent to in private is ok with me. - Reply to this comment
- What's wrong with abstinence anyway? *** should be special between two people; not just a free giveaway that encourages the spread of disease and/or emotional grief. (Don't get me started on people who cheat...)
The sad part is, so few treat it that way - with everyone else laughing at them.
It seems we will have the last laugh. Which is an odd sort of shame; we're watching everyone else suffer or die from the various forms of VD.
Posted by hypnotoad72 at 10:27 AM : May 12, 2007
A better question is when will Religious Nazi's stop with their social control idea's. It doesn't WORK period! It's PROVEN not to work and your RELIGIOUS BELIEFS have nothing what so ever to do with it. Every time we allow the Religious Nazi's to take control and you do NOT have to look hard at history to see this, we find Bigotry, Hate, Shame and just plain STUPIDITY as a result. SEPERATION of CHURCH and STATE is the best thing this nation can do to heal itself right now! Sieg Heil and Amen. - Reply to this comment
- blazercoach1, I can agree with you about the message. However, actions speak louder then words. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. Here is what we do. Before passing out condoms, put a warning on the pack that says (*** can kill you and Abstinence is the only to avoid death by ***).
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- The same study showed, however, that teenagers subjected to this rediculous Abstinance education still knew about birth control and condom use, and used them about as often as teenagers that had gone through common sense *** education programs. Thank goodness for the internet!
At any rate, I really regret that my school was one of those that preached abstinance. I've discussed *** ed with many peers who did not go through such a program and I feel like I missed out on a lot of real information. Scare tactics, in the case of a normal physical phenomenon, apparently don't work very well. Too bad the religious people of this country will continue to cheat our kids out of real *** education. - Reply to this comment
- What's wrong with abstinence anyway? *** should be special between two people; not just a free giveaway that encourages the spread of disease and/or emotional grief. (Don't get me started on people who cheat...)
The sad part is, so few treat it that way - with everyone else laughing at them.
It seems we will have the last laugh. Which is an odd sort of shame; we're watching everyone else suffer or die from the various forms of VD. - Reply to this comment
- VictoriaRum - I must agree, and the concept of self-restraint transcends sexuality as well.
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- blazercoach1 - precisely. Folks on both sides of the aisle fail their own standards. And expect everyone else to live by them. Now I don't mind cleaning up my own act, but if these same congresscritters want to be treated seriously, they need to clean up their own act.
Especially Gore; his excuse of "carbon credits" to justify his supersized lifestyle is a joke. If you equate "carbon credits" to "credit cards", complete with annual fee and 25% APR... and the company he works for, their record is less than stellar too... (http://www.badapple.biz - very informative.) - Reply to this comment
- Being abstinate shows self-restraint of the human will, God Bless you for being in control of your own self-will instead of letting the worldly desires draw you there.
Pray for Peace. - Reply to this comment
- Those who preach environmentalism are often hypocrites as well.
As an environmentalist AND an advocate of abstinence, I hope that the humanity (some call this "hypocrisy") of those who recognize the value of both doesn't cause others to devalue their importance.
Remember, MLK wasn't spotless, Ghandi beat his wife, Al Gore lives in a mansion. This doesn't mean that their messages are bogus....just that their spokespersons are HUMAN.
By the way....PREACHING environmentalism, PREACHING safe driving, PREACHING financial responsibility doesn't produce it either. PRACTICING does. - Reply to this comment
