Comments on: Another Vietnam Parallel In Iraq

The New Republic: Just Like Abrams In Vietnam, Petraeus Has Been Tapped Too Late To Win

[xgi123]

Viet Nam was not lost to the Vietcong. The military problem was fighting the NVA while having ARVN troops not doing a dam thing.

[Syndicate]

One of the problems with Vietnam was the constant call for peace talks. The Vietcong used these cease fires to rearm. Another lesson from Vietnam was how much comfort the Vietcong took from the American anti war protestors. I think its Funny how when this is pointed out today people call you names. But its true ask the Vietnamese they'll tell you. People please understand Iraq is not lost until we say it is. We can withdrawl our troops at any time and nuke the whole ******* country. We win. Game Over. :) OH and if anybody wants to complain we can send them a few ICBMs too.

[jpesot]

I think that Petraeus is a great general, and I'm glad he's in charge. I still want us to redeploy, and do so as quickly as possible.

Petraeus didn't design the surge. GW and the neocons did. Petraeus recognized that if he didn't lead it, some one else would take the men (his men) and lead them in anyway. Read Cobra II and you get a sense of the man.

I think he'd rather lead his men within a bad strategy, and try to adjust it himself, rather than leave his mean to be lead by another.

I also think the neocons hide behind him like the cowards that they are.

I think the surge idea is yet another mistake, but I hope Petraeus can modify it on the ground and turn GW's total disaster into something stable and managable.

[scott4261]

Before this war this war even started, I said, "I hope I'm wrong, but this could be George W. Bush's Vietnam!"

God, I wish I had been wrong about that.

[xgi123]

Otherwise, Jooz hater, and America basher, move to Iran or Syria, you'd be much happier there. But don't forget to take your fellow traitors with you.
Posted by superpatri18 at 04:33 PM : Mar 20, 2007

What are YOUR military credentials?

[superpatri18]

Israel NEVER got us into Iraq, bonehead Nazi boy.
Ever hear of Kuwait, Hitlerian stooge? Nah, probably not. You're too busy claimed to be an ex-American soldier. Ex is correct. Soldier, maybe. American, not by a longshot.

If Saddam had curbed his expanionist appetite, had not massacred the Kurds (incidentally are you going to make excuses for Bush I on that subject, Captain Botelier aka Bluestarbigot?), or actively sought nuclear weapons, despite what glorified secretary and PLAYBOY wannabe Val and the pervert Ritter claim, we might have left him alone. Just as we have with the Saudis. And just as we did when we betrayed the Shah.

In fact, if you want to blame anyone for us being in Iraq, go down to Plains, Georgia, arrest Carter, and order a drumhead courtmartial for the coward. He started it all by abandoning Reza Pahlevi. We abhorred Saddam but were quite willing to stay out until your hero forced us to make Saddam a foil to the Iranians.

Otherwise, Jooz hater, and America basher, move to Iran or Syria, you'd be much happier there. But don't forget to take your fellow traitors with you.

[Syndicate]

fredgrad2000: Great point.

[bluestardad]

NO ISRAEL DID NOT GET US INTO VIETNAM IT WAS FRANCE WANTING THEIR COLONEY BACK!

ISRAEL GOT US INTO IRAQ! THEY WILL WALK US INTO IRAN TOO IF WE DONT STOP THEM.

IF YOU SEE AIPAC ANYWHERE YOU KNOW IT IS THE STRONGEST ISRAELI POLITICAL ACTION COMMITTEE! DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS ARE ON IT AND GUYS LIKE THIS CHICKEN HAWK NEOCON WILLIAM KRISTOL ARE TOO.

THESE GUYS HAVE CAUSED MORE DEATH THAN ANY WEAPON KNOWN TO MAN! IT IS TIME TO STOP THEM!

HOW MUCH AIPAC INFLUENCES YOUR SENATORS VOTES ON IRAQ?

http://www.aipac.org/forms/join
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[fredgrad2000]

(Cont'd)...Iran had every incentive to help foment this sectarian violence as they too believed we would tire and eventually withdraw, leaving them and their allies in the majority as the masters of Iraq. But more importantly for them, the bloodier and more drawn out they helped make Iraq, the less likely we would be to have the stomach to take them on. Al Qaeda in Iraq is mostly native Iraqis, but is controlled by foreigners and swears allegiance to the overall Al Qaeda, and Iran has few minions in Iraq...but it is THEIR strategy and their proxies that have beaten us. Every war has losers and victors, if we are the losers, its important to know who the victors were that beat us, and how to, if that victory is now certain, how to limit their ability to capitalize further thereon.

[fredgrad2000]

The posts here are 80-90% against the war, which is fine, I think it was a mistake to go in based on what we know now of WMD and of the shortcomings of the Iraqi people - they'd rather fight each other and settle old blood feuds then fight for their own freedom and prosperity. But IF this is already a lost cause, who is the victor? Who did we lose TO!? Its a question that needs to be answered. The answer is we lost to Al Qaeda and Iran (our 2 most dangerous enemies). Al Qaeda, knowing they could not possibly defeat us on a battlefield, contrived the strategy of fomenting a sectarian war to make the country ungovernable and prevent a democracy from flourishing, while taking as many American lives as possible in smaller attacks, knowing that if enough US soldiers died and a definable victory remained elusive long enough (we Americans like our clear-cut victories like VE and VJ Day), we would tire and eventually "redeploy" (like it or not, that is their strategy and that is what has happened). Us leaving would allow them a near base to attack the moderate Mideast govts they despise and give them a safe haven for planning against the "big fish", us.