Comments on: No Rush On Global Warming

The New Republic: Moderate Legislation Worse Than None With Climate Change

[erasmus6]

HawkSprings, you need to move on. This isn't about Al Gore. Al Gore is just the delivery person. You are like my husband, he always has an excuse to why he doesn't want to do something too.

[hawksprings]

jimfinster, you are missing the whole point.
At the Oscars, Algore in his acceptance speech said that Global Warming is a MORAL issue.
ALGORE said that.

So in his mind, it's not political or scientific, it's moral.

So since he has the center stage, he gets to set the agenda for this issue - that it's a moral issue.

Now, if that's what he believes, and he is basically the Pope of Global Warming, then why doesn't he set the example for us in the way he lives?

Instead, he lives like an energy hog, he sets up a corporation to profit from the hysteria HE is trying to create, and at the same time tells us all we need to cut back drasctically on our consumption.

How is Algore any better than who erasmus6 calls dumbasses who won't get off their butts and do anything?

Algore is part of the problem, not the solution.

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[erasmus6]

One other thing, instead of thinking of yourselves and how much work it will be for you, start thinking of your children and their children and what the world will be like for them if it should turn out to be true.

[erasmus6]

The reason they didn't do anything years ago is because of the reason people don't want to believe it today-MONEY and LAZINESS. They all figured that if they closed their eyes it would go away. The problem now is it hasn't gone away and it is probably too late. And you ignorant idiots out there who don't believe and would rather wait and see (of course you won't be alive to see), don't you think it would be better to just start doing something about it, just in case it is true? How is having cleaner water and air to breath bad? If you dumb ****s can't get up off your lazy *** to do your part then the least you can do is shut the **** up!

[jimfinster]

HawkSprings:

This is science issue. You are trying to make it a political issue.

I am asking this in a nice way, but do you understand the science involved?

[hawksprings]

jimfinster, Give it a rest?

Algore and his ilk are trying to drastically and regressively change our lives, while not changing his, and in addition, profiting on it, and I should give it a rest?

According to the Global Warming Gloom and Doom crowd, WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE FROM GLOBAL WARMING!!

But people like Algore go right on consumin' like nothin's wrong. Why is that? Could it be that he doesn't really believe his own docudrama?
I don't think he does. He's just profiteering from it.

I don't doubt that there's climate change going on. The earth's climate has always changed from warmer to cooler and back again, and it always will.

But we can't cause it and we can't stop it, all we can do is adjust.

THAT'S the Inconvenient Truth.

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[jimfinster]

HawkSprings:

Give it at rest with the algore thing. We understand you don't like him. But he has nothing to do with the factual basis of global warming.

[hawksprings]

The Dembots owned the Presidency, the Senate, and the House when Clinton and Algore got elected. The Dembots had been the majority party in Congress for over 30 years before that, almost 40.

What did they do with that power?

One of the first things Clinton did was focus on *** in the military.

If we're all going to die of greenhouse gas caused calamities, why didn't they do anything about it then?

It's because they don't believe it's that bad themselves.

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[hawksprings]

One time a bunch of guys were living in a frat house together.
One day while a bunch of them were watching TV, one of the guys walked into the living room and told the other guys, "The house is on fire and we need to get out now or we'll die."
Then he left the room and went to the kitchen and made himself a huge sandwich and sat down to eat it.
The other guys followed him in to the kitchen, and saw him gorging himself. And then he turns to them again and with a mouth full of food said, "The house is on fire, you need to get out now."

They thought he was an idiot.

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[hawksprings]

wjksea, if all the scientific data is so true, and we're all gonna die if we don't drastically change our ways, then WHY ISN'T ALGORE LEADING THE WAY INSTEAD OF JUST TELLING THE REST OF US TO CHANGE?

It goes to the HEART of his credibility.

Using your reasoning, I guess you would have no problem with that pastor in Colo Springs, Ted Haggard, who preached against homosexuality while at the same time he was having a gay affair?

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[hawksprings]

wjksea, so the bottom line is, you're not going to address Algore's lifestyle of carbon gluttony while telling us to 'drastically cut back'.

That's why most people don't believe in the gloom and doom forecasts by people liks Algore.

Here's another story for you from USA Today, that bastion of ring-wingedness:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2006-08-09-gore-green_x.htm

Here's the closing sentence from that editorial:

"The issue here is not simply Gore's hypocrisy; it's a question of credibility. If he genuinely believes the apocalyptic vision he has put forth and calls for radical changes in the way other people live, why hasn't he made any radical change in his life? Giving up the zinc mine or one of his homes is not asking much, given that he wants the rest of us to radically change our lives."

Algore's life motto: "Do as I say, not as I do."

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[hawksprings]

"I've tried for years to understand the right but it seems they are hell bent on noticing the speck in their brother's eye instead of the log in their own."
Posted by wjksea at 11:58 AM : Mar 03, 2007

You're unbelieveable.

This is just what Algore is doing by telling us all we need to cut back on our consumption, use less, tax offenders more, while the whole time he Gore-ges himself on fossil fuels.

He's telling us about the speck of coal in our eye when he's got a whole coal mine in his eye.

It's amazing that you won't admit to Algore's hypocrisy.

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[hawksprings]

wjksea, what part of Algore's story am I 'swift-boating'?

So you don't mind that your Holy Father of Global Warming creates more Global Warming Gasses than 20 of us combined?

And that he profits off of it by setting up a so-called "Green" company where he buys carbon offsets from himself, and with his preaching of gloom and doom, drives up the stock on his kind of company?

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[hawksprings]

sesanders1, if we're to avoid catastrophe caused by Global Warming, then why doesn't your hero, Algore, live in a way that will avert global catastrophe?

Instead, he's making a killing off the global warming hysteria, buying credits from his own 'green' company, etc. etc.

Algore says global warming is a 'moral issue'.
If that's so, Algore should be very ashamed of his immorality.

http://www.ecotality.com/blog/?p=350
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[hawksprings]

A quote from http://www.ecotality.com/blog/?p=350

"During the eight years Gore was vice president, he voted in four national elections. Every single time, he and his entourage and security detail and accompanying media flew to Nashville on a large government jet, burning thousands of gallons of fossil fuels and pumping huge amounts of carbon emissions directly into the earth%u2019s atmosphere, and then rode in a caravan of fossil fuel-burning vehicles from Nashville International Airport about 40 miles east on I-40 to Carthage, Tennessee, so the local and national TV cameras could get video of him at the voting booth. And then the whole caravan headed back to Nashville for the plane ride back to DC. Traffic had to be halted on Nashville%u2019s interstates and side streets every time - sometimes during rush hour - idling thousand of vehicles that just sat there, burning fossil fuels and emitting carbon pollution, just so Gore could create a media photo-op.

He could have instead voted by mailing in an absentee ballot - that would have been the %u201Cgreen%u201D thing to do - and a skillful press aide could easily have turned that into a widely publicized pro-green photo-op."

But he's done so much to prmote the global warming gloom and doom hysteria, all that doesn't matter, right?

There are a few hack scientists in the employ of the main offenders who claim that global warming is a fiction of mad scientists bent on something, but mainstream scientific opinion world wide has no doubts that it is here and is being exacerbated by man-made agents which must be addressed if we are to avoid a catastrophe down the road.

[hawksprings]

Why should we be concerned about Global Warming doom and gloom when the #1 Cheerleader, Algore, personally lives like an energy hog?

Even he doesn't believe his own c-rap.

And don't give me the bull-doodoo that he 'offsets' his carbon use. He is chairman of Generation Investment Management LLP where he buys his carbon offsets from himself. How Convenient.

In a nutshell, Gore consumes large amounts of carbon-based electricity and fossil fuels while he trumpets the global warming crisis that drives up the value of %u201Cgreen%u201D companies like the ones in which he "buys carbon offsets" or more truthfully, invests in their stocks.

Algore is immoral by his own standards.

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[grumpas]

Just like the ignorant Republican Governor of our state who doesn't believe Mercury is a toxic metal! He wouldn't join other Governor's in western states on the issue of Global Warming! He hasn't taken his brain out of the closet and dusted it for cobwebs! So, he declined to join them! A Bush prodeige who has been one of George's best students of the absurd!

[skyk-2009]

Yeah sure folks just keep listening to these Fascist Rags. They'll tell you when things aren't right!! LMAO Like they would have told us about the mess at the VA Hospital. This Garbage Pail, like the rest of them have an Agenda. That agenda is to protect the Rich and the Well to do. Their Agenda is to protect the Fascist Party. Things that would hurt you and I, things like our kids lying in Rat infested Rooms at the VA? YOU are NOT going to hear those truths from these people. Believing them is asking for BIG PROBLEMS!! Waiting with Global Warming COULD well doom us and this country. ACTING on the other hand does NOT harm us in ANY WAY!!