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marcodele says:
If Obama promises everyone a check for either $300 or $600 if elected, the neocons might fall for that. They did before.
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Razzl says:
Nobody gets to have "healing and civility" until the sinners and those who support them have been outed, humiliated, punished, and show contrition and humility. Torture, spying, lying, abuse of power, militarism, propagandism, divisiveness, these are all the things which Bush and his apologists in his party and in the larger professional political/media class have visited upon us, and I for one will not sit down beside anyone who has not repented the wrongfulness of tolerating these things. Obama is naive to believe that it's time to talk about reconciliation yet, but he's still in that phase of wandering in the wilderness gather understanding and I expect him to come out of it. As for the rest, well, we need a modern-day John Brown to come out of Kansas and smite the wicked...
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hawksprings says:
Scott, I've never questioned your patriotism, I just don't agree with you on some issues.

Just because you're wrong doesn't mean that I think you're not a patriotic American, just a misguided patriotic American.

You're not answering my posts about us being co-campaign managers for the Gore Green Party Campaign. If I didn't think you were a patriotic American, I wouldn't be offering this historic opportunity.

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scott4261 says:
dogsoul and Hawk,

I usually don't start throwing around words like "nutcase," or "wingnut," or "nutball," etc. until I feel like my patriotism has been called into question. That really sets me off, because I love this country and I see it as my patriotic duty to point out the wrongs that I believe - to the depths of my soul - this adminstration is committing. so as long as I'm not insulted, we'll get along fine and I'll try to give you the same respect in return. If I feel like I've been slighted, though, all bets are off!

So just because I oppose this illegal war does not mean I hate my country. In fact, I want to save it.



"Dissent is the highst form of patriotism." -Thomas Jefferson

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin

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scott4261 says:
Liberals have no solid foundation for right and wrong, except for one: If you oppose them or their ideas, you are wrong and evil.
Posted by HawkSprings at 03:46 PM

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Conservatives have no solid foundation for right and wrong, except for one: If you oppose them or their ideas, you are wrong and evil.

See how ridiculous that is, numbnuts?
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hawksprings says:

dogsoul, you are sooooooooo right.

Liberals have no solid foundation for right and wrong, except for one: If you oppose them or their ideas, you are wrong and evil.
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ademeyer says:
It's creepy and weird when Republicans try to claim a charismatic Democrat is just like one of their own. Next, Gore will remind them of Cheney and oooh, John Edwards rings a Ronald Reagon bell, after all, Nancy spend too much on china and Edward's house is too big. Get real. Obama is unique, he's a good man, and he's ours.
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dogsoul says:
I can recall immediately post 9/11 while Bush was delivering his State of the Union speech trying to bring the country together in the aftermath of this terror attack... Hillary was caught several times on camera rolling her eyes, sneering, etc... For me, that merely underscores what has been plainly observable ever since - liberals won't set aside their partisan aims for any reason... terror threat... wartime... natural disasters... it doesn't matter - they'll gladly accept, even help foster most any defeat for America so long as it harms their Republican enemies & in so doing, furthers their own goals.
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getcentered says:
Please, someone tell where the CENTRIST Republicans are?

Many Americans today have been enlightened by the two wars we find ourselves involved. One war, the "war on terrorism", finds its main battleground in Afghanistan, and it is a war that costs lives and money but the majority of Americans support. Liberals, Democrats, Republicans, Conservatives, most don't have a problem with us kicking down the doors of members of the Taliban.

When talking about the war in Iraq the parties have much difference. Democrats say that the public and congress was mislead to justify the war in Iraq and that the Bush Administration no longer deserves autonomy in situations where US service men and women's lives are on the line. Based on the results of the last Congressional elections, most Americans see a problem with GOP/Republicans; at least in the way they make decisions about the use of our military.

So why is it that in the GOP/Republican party there are no dissenters, no independent thinkers, no moderates? Where are the real conservatives who would laugh at how conservatively the current Republican party has been spending taxes, and creating big government? Has the Republican Party lost its identity? Can the ideology of the GOP be so easily summed up in Karl Rove talking points like %u201Csupport this and support that%u201D, and angry rhetoric like %u201Cliberals are traitors%u201D?

Hello centrist Republicans! Anybody out there?
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getcentered says:
US_Infidel:

You are stuck in the same "right-wing" world I'm talking about. You know where dissent doesn't exist and eveybody listens to the same news sources and agrees on everything.

Thanks K. Rove! Love ya!
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