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by lfitts1 January 22, 2007 8:14 PM EST
The problem is highlighted by mgpm--"with gods help"--that is by definition a religious debate--keep god out of legislation and out of government--believe as you wish--just don't force me to accept the same.
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by marcodele January 22, 2007 8:13 PM EST
Kudos to lfitss' post. In their attempt to impersonate morally mature people, the Republicans diagnosed Terry Shiavo from a videotape in D.C. Jeb Bush started his short-lived presidential campaign by claiming he saw Terry Schiavo make eye contact. This is the tragedy we get when we let politicians interfere in family's personal and moral health care choices.

Of course, the scientists' autopsy proved poor Terry Shiavo was brain dead long ago, while the politicians in D.C. and the Florida governor's mansion batted her around like an electoral ping pong ball.

Those are your "family values" "Pro-life" polticians - otherwise known as Charletons.
Keep them out of my body, away from my physician, and please, keep your vote out of their pockets. Don't let them take a political office based on one small emotional issue when there are thousand of more important issues that could result in the loss of millions of lives.
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by global_chick January 22, 2007 8:13 PM EST
I'm not sure why the President keeps coming up in this discussion. What he did or did not do is beside the point, in my opinion. The question should be, is abortion wrong or not, and should it be overturned?
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by global_chick January 22, 2007 8:11 PM EST
With all due respect, I have a problem when people sugarcoat abortion with words that would appear positive: Let's be clear: It's not a "choice" and it's not a "reproductive decision." Choices and decisions are what you make when deciding what shirt to wear or what car drive. Abortion is "I don't want a child, so I am going to pay someone to off it." Plain and simple.
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by mgpm-2009 January 22, 2007 8:00 PM EST
I think the Pro Life movement would do better to get out of the trying to make abortion illegal arena and start trying to make abortion less attractive. Help families, give support to women, provide B/C, education, give better advice to our young people.
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by mgpm-2009 January 22, 2007 7:55 PM EST
I agree with you, Global Chick. I have four children. My third child I almost lost at 11 weeks, I started to miscarry. I had to stay in bed the remainder of the pregnancy or I'd certainly lose the baby. I had a 50 50 chance at best the dr. said. With God's help, I had him, and he's 6 now. He began reading at age 2, he writes his own songs...he's gifted. I often wonder what my life would be like with out him. I also wonder what treasures are thrown away every single day.
I can't help but believe abortion is a crime against nature.

But the people who claim to be champions against it are not champions against it. I don't believe them. I don't believe GWB cares. He doesn't have a conscience.
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by lfitts1 January 22, 2007 7:53 PM EST
First of all it is NOT A PRO-LIFE MOVEMENT--it is the antiabortion movement.

Second--no one makes these decisions lightly--but like free speech it is a slippery slope to try to control someone elses body

Third--no one is FOR abortion--it is not like apple pie--it is more like taxes--a necessary evil.

Most antiabortionists think life begins at conception and end at birth--they are unwilling to commit the resources to give quality to those born. Making the decison to have an abortion is a difficulat one and one that is made for a myriad of reasons--birth control failed, genetic abnormalities, lacking the resources to raise and feed another mouth. This 'straw man' of "partial birth abortion" is just that. That is a medical procedure that is done specificly when large abnormailities are seen in the fetus late in gestation--anencephaly(basicly no brain).

As a physician--the choice of medical procedures is between a patient and the doctor--not the state legislature--they don't tell doctors whether to do an appendectomy laporoscopicly or open--the legislature has no standing in this devbate--keep laws out of patients rights.

The other interesting thing is that the Republicans are amazing adept at pushing hot button issues in order to hide their lack of ideas in all other facets of running the country. They are morally bankrupt, but yell family values from the rafters--don't get sucked in!!!
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by marcodele January 22, 2007 7:51 PM EST
What has any voter gained by voting for the so called pro-life candidate? Did any one of them try to outlaw abortions?

Don't waste your votes on these snake oil salesmen. Even if abortion was illegal many women would still choose to have them.

Nobody is for abortion. But a majority of people are for a woman's choice about her own reproductive options.
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by global_chick January 22, 2007 7:47 PM EST
My point has been proven: We live in a society where not only time, but now people, are money. Children are no longer valued. Instead they are seen as a hindrance, a financial burden to be done away with, and a "political tool" or a "wedge issue." The vast majority of you on this board represent, in my opinion, everything that is wrong with society: it has a black soul. That's because it's all about "me, me, me" and to hell with you if you get in my way. It's all about my political views, and to hell with you if you get in my way. It's about some supposed "right" to murder a child. Where is that in the Constitution?

It's no longer about a child (and yes, it is clearly a child, if you have actually seen any photos of a developing fetus). I only hope that in time we can all see the error of that way.

Stop thinking about yourselves for once and think about the child. This isn't about "beliefs": It's about whether or not it is right to cut up a tiny human. I'm willing to bet that most of you on here who are pro-abortion have never seen a picture of a butchered fetus. I dare you to look one up and see if it affects you in any way.
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by mgpm-2009 January 22, 2007 7:43 PM EST
I believe life begins at conception. I'm against abortion. But I can't see anything the right has done, really, in the last thirty five years to radically reduce abortions or eliminate them. (With the exception of Carter and Clinton, the presidencies have all been thiers during that time!) The only thing the right does is to the the pro life vote. Bush couldn't even be bothered to make an appearance today at the rally in DC. Too busy counting the dead in Iraq I guess. It most definitely is NOT an issue the right really gives a flying fig about and it's about time the American public figures it out. The Dems ought to figure it out too, and talk about ways to REDUCE the NEED for abortions, ie. health care, supports for women and families, etc. That would make sense.
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