Comments on: Passing The People's Religious Test

The New Republic: Mitt Romney's Mormonism Is Nothing To Fear

[random_radar]

Getting back on topic...

Did Massachussetts turn into a Mormon Holy Land under his governorship? Still looks like good ole liberal Massachussets to me.

But did Massachussets improve economically? Last I heard business is booming.

Did *** get run out of the state? Last I checked they are getting married there.

Governor Ahnold is proposing a health care initiative for bell weather state of California that Romney already did in Massachussetts.

If anything, Romney seems clean from corruption. With several hundred million dollars in the bank, I doubt he would stoop to graft and bribery.

Seems to me he ought to appeal to a wide segment of America. People are complaining about what a consummate politician he is. Seems to me he is a people pleaser. Isn't that what gets elected?

[caldwellptr]

If gay christians are considered 2nd class members in communities of faith, if not considered unwanted outcasts, then by what criteria is Mitt Rommeny being judged?

[bildooreilly]

What kind of evolution are you talking about? Interspecies evolution? There's no proof it has ever happened... dogs and cats for instance can't breed together... you mean same species evolution.. granted there may be slight differences in the offspring but when two dogs mate they always have a dog, it might be a little bit different but it's still a dog... so exactly what kind of evolution are you speaking of?

Do you believe in the "Big bang" theory too? Where it says "450 million years ago" (Long ago and far away) a speck of dust smaller than a dot on this page superimploded and created our entire universe.... what kind of drugs are these people on...

It's time for science and religious loons to just plain admit it... NOBODY KNOWS HOW WE GOT HERE... stop teaching your *** to kids...

[bildooreilly]

Mormons are a satanic cult... there's a temple in nauvoo IL, has upside down pentagram windows all around it, place gives me the creeps... Joseph Smith stole his rituals off the freemasons who murdered him for it.

[passerby2]

i vote whichever person backs me on the more serious issues like abortion and gay rights meaning they should both be stopped and never continued

Posted by Jason_plo at 05:06 PM : Jan 09, 2007

abortion and gay rights are not serious issues, they are made serious by religious nutcases bent on their religious beliefs and trying to press their beliefs on everyone else that makes it serious.

[passerby2]

All religion is "dogmatic, irrational, and absurd." Anyone with a religious belief should be banned from positions of responsibility and elected office.

Posted by roger3815 at 12:02 PM : Jan 09, 2007

Yes!

[i-tack]

Ozilot,you said,

"In some cases the American religious right in its attempt to create an evangelical state are equal to or worst than so called islamofascist."

Do you REALLY believe that? Anyone can get carried away while typing, so I thought it a fair question to ask.

[Jasonian18]

atheists push their view on others more then the reverse evolution is an unproven theory which is strictly atheistic and yet what is being pushed on kids as truth in public school today? atheism is being pushed on kids today atheism is a religion so yes religion is a major issue because everybody goes from their religous standpoint.

[Jasonian18]

i agree on the vote democrat thing for one reason when we have another lying pres like clinton we'll just be right back over to a rep pres all over again there needs to be one party to stand up the american party one party that does what is right for the country not what is right for the party because just voting democrat or just voting republican is stupid i vote whichever person backs me on the more serious issues like abortion and gay rights meaning they should both be stopped and never continued

[Jasonian18]

and how is religion irrational and absurd i have to say disappointedly that i know we are a lil dogmatic but mostly not nearly as dogmatic as people that say God doesn't exist they are so set on their views just like us Christians that they are just as dogmatic don't the grass seem greener on the other side

[Jasonian18]

all they say are things we already live by thou shalt not kill thou shalt not steal thou shalt not commit adultery whats wrong with that? the constitution is subject to change and when i say it is subje3ct to change im referring to the fact that the judges and people keep misinterpreting the constitution to make things seem more to their liking for example people try to change the constitution to seem like it talks against capital punishment but in those days make crimes lead to hangings that my friend is capital punishment how can it be wrong if they agreed with it and that is just on of many things that has been misinterpreted in the constitution

[Jasonian18]

well simple words i am back... 1 i would like to point out that a mormon is no different then any other religious belief evolution is a religous belief as well the belief that there is no God its called atheism so if you don't want our religion to be put on other people don't put your religion on anyone else either like you have been doing for the past few years there is just as much historical proof of evolution as there is that Jesus was God embodied although there is actually historical proof the Jesus existed which is more than what can be said about evolution. and with reference to swearing in on the Bible or the constitution the reason that people were sworn in on the Bible and not the constitution is because there is nothing wrong with the Bible name one thing wrong with the Bible and what it states in fact let me give this quote first "what is more ignorant a person who believes in a God he cannot see or a person who is offended by a God he does not believe in" the Bible shouldn't be offensive to anyone i see nothing wrong with the Bible fir instance what is wrong with the ten commandments? .

[tibu987]

Yes, absolutely, politicians being sworn in should hold their hand on the Constitution of the U.S. and not the bible or the koran, or any other book of religion.
Makes perfect sense.

[tibu987]

Not what we need, more religious whackos in government. The current list of democratic contenders for the Presidency leaves a whole lot to be desired.
Not looking very good thus far.

[p-syrus]

As to Romney's Mormonism, any actual attempt to enforce a Mormon prophet's commands on the nation as a whole would be sufficient grounds for impeachment. A candidate's adherence to mormonism is not itself a sufficient grounds to bar his election.

Although, given the history of relations between mormonism and soi dissant mainstream christianity, my bet is Romney's not likely to get a lot of support from non-mormon Republican church-goers.

As to the scientology references, the author Judis confuses the Church of Scientology, which is a cult, with the practice of scientology which is not. An excellent discussion of the subject was presented on British TV channel 4 this last year. It was hosted by the British sikh comedian Hardeep Singh Kohli and is very funny as well as informative. It is available on-line as "the beginners guide to l.ron hubbard" at Google video.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3516602771229259099

[perception5]

He does look "PRESIDENTIAL" and I hope to learn more about him........... problem is I don't know if he will get a fair "review" by our liberal press.......... maybe because he's pretty looking and was Governor of Massachussets he'd get a fair review.............but I doubt it. In today's media coverage to get a good review you have to have a "D" after your name.

[random_radar]

"All religion is "dogmatic, irrational, and absurd." Anyone with a religious belief should be banned from positions of responsibility and elected office.
Posted by roger3815 at 12:02 PM : Jan 09, 2007"

Wouldn't it be easier just to admit that anyone with an opinion different than yours should be banned from public office? Why don't we elect you king to rule over us benighted citizens?

[random_radar]

"yeah but, how many first ladies will he have?
Posted by billpl at 01:11 PM : Jan 09, 2007"

Only one, the rest will be numbered second lady, third lady, and so on.

[random_radar]

"They should keep their religious beliefs to themselves, and not force those beliefs on anyone else. Just like the big deal made over the Senator swearing in on the koran. They shouldn't be putting a hand on the bible, the koran, or any religious book - they should be swearing in with their hand on a copy of the Constitution.
Posted by hungry1968 at 01:34 PM : Jan 09, 2007"

Well spoken!

[random_radar]

If I were running for office, this is what I would say about my allegiance to a prophet or pope:

"As a member of my religious faith, I feel that my personal conduct should be bound by the pronouncements of my religious leaders.

As representative of the people, I should do their will in matters of governance."

If this position bothered a candidate, they should not run for office. If it doesn't satisfy a voter, they should carefully reconsider their lack of tolerance.