Comments on: Jimmy Carter's Foolishness About Israel

NRO: Former President's New Book Rife With Simplistic, Naïve Ideas

[grumpas]

All I can say on the subject! What did Israel expect when they took someone else's country from them in 1948! But, years upon years of war being waged against them! They have exactly what they asked for as far as I am concerned! I don't feel remotely sorry for them! You need to start reading something other than the Israeli propaganda you have been reading STERNLIGHT! The Israeli's are just as guilty of war crimes as the Palestinian's are! Between demolishing homes of suspected PLO people, kidnapping them and other atrosities!

[drinuk]

Israel took the land in 1948, spurred on by their terrorist leaders Mayer and Begin they slaughtered British peace keepers. who else but those wishing to rule by the bullet carries out such acts, well! we all know what Bush and Blair calls them.....Terrorists. The Chosen Race, My ***.

[tamroi]

Israel is a terrorist state, now, as well as founded in terrorism. It is also a blatently racist state.

As Charen points out: the world is teeming with Israel haters and not just among the rabble. As the last commentor noted, international jihad, as well as Charen's intellectuals at embassy soirees, will never stop attacking the Jewish state. Like South Africa, sooner or later it will cease to exist as an apartheid state, as its defender continues losing its hegemony through evangelical stupidity.

Ultimately the only hope for Israel is for enough of its brilliant young people to emigrate, until the two wicked stupid governments face the fact that Israel must treat all its semitic brothers with fraternity, liberty, and equality. Canada alone would be enhanced immeasurably by welcoming all five million of Israel's Jews.

[daligiraffe]

Israel is not a terrorist state. Mona Charen%u2019s mention of "sixty years of withheld recognition by its neighbors" and "ceaseless terror against Israeli civilians" is absolutely correct. Israel is surrounded by vicious and well-armed Muslim extremist groups whose main goal is to wipe it off the map. In that situation, military might is an absolute necessity, and since the terrorists have made human shields a vital tool in their war, innocent people get hurt.

People seem to think that if Israel will simply hand over its occupied territories the terrorists will stop attacking, but that is not the case. It is the fact that Israel is Jewish, not occupiers, that drives the terrorists. Israel can never pull out until the Palestinian and other Middle Eastern governments recognize Israel and make a genuine attempt to disarm the terrorist groups. That does not look like it will happen any time soon.

Furthermore, although Charen writes with a bit of journalistic flair that may appear to some readers as condescending, her criticism of Mr. Carter%u2019s book is perfectly valid. She simply picks out a few passages and accurately refutes them.

[tamroi]

Please notice that Mona Charen's column contains nothing more than empty personal insults. In her only serious criticism of Carter's book, she says: you can pretty much close your eyes and point to any page to find something simplistic, naive, or tenditious. This may or may not be true but the message of the book, by a uniquely brave and humane patriot, is tragically true.

I beg you to read the books and web articles by the Israeli scholar, Tanya Reinhart - in particular the book: The Road Map to Nowhere (2006). The facts which she presents, mostly taken from recent Israeli newspapers, should convince you that Americans are now fallen into a collective evil as deep as any that educated mankind has known.

[tamroi]

Please notice that Mona Charen%u2019s column titled %u2018Jimmy Carter%u2019s Foolishness About Israel%u2019, which we are invited here to comment on, contains nothing more than ad homonym attacks, that is, empty personal insults. In her only serious criticism of the book %u2018Palestine: Peace or Apartheid%u2019, she says %u201Cyou can pretty much close your eyes and point to any page to find something simplistic, naove, or tendentious.%u201D This may or may not be true but the message of the book, by a uniquely brave and humane American patriot, is tragically true.


I beg you to read the books and web articles by the Israeli scholar, Tanya Reinhart, in particular the book %u2018The Road Map to Nowhere%u2019 (2006). The facts which she presents, mostly taken from recent Israeli newspapers, should convince you that Americans are now fallen into a collective evil as deep as any that educated mankind has known.

[styker1224]

As usual the pro-Israeli PROPAGANDISTS mainly US-born Jews brainwashed into their victimhood mentality and urged to support their state-terrorist state of Israel, are up in arms over this message board attacking not only American President Carter (one of the few brave politicians willing to speak out against Israeli brutality).

One poster actually posted verbatim a 7 part "cut and paste" talking points from powerful US-Jewish and right-wing evangelical Armaggedon-crazed websites like American Jewish Committee (AJC) and Zionist Organisation of America (ZOA) websites the talking points. How amusing and original...

The fact of the matter remains American foreign policy is so twisted, skewed, and influenced by those with emotional attachments to Israel over America interests that, that is why US was misled into a war with Iraq and now being brainwashed into conflict with Iran.

Just read Yehud Olmert's interview in TIME magazine saying after Iraq, Iran is a major threat to Israeli interests, not US... and now he's caught coaching Italian PM on what talking points he needs to say to the press.

Candid footage Shows Olmert Coaching Prodi:
http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/story.asp?j=204277570&p=zx4z78z76

[styker1224]

As usual the pro-Israeli PROPAGANDISTS mainly US-born Jews brainwashed into their victimhood mentality and urged to support their state-terrorist state of Israel, are up in arms over this message board attacking not only American President Carter (one of the few brave politicians willing to speak out against Israeli brutality).

One poster actually posted verbatim a 7 part "cut and paste" talking points from powerful US-Jewish and right-wing evangelical Armaggedon-crazed websites like American Jewish Committee (AJC) and Zionist Organisation of America (ZOA) websites the talking points. How amusing and original...

The fact of the matter remains American foreign policy is so twisted, skewed, and influenced by those with emotional attachments to Israel over America interests that, that is why US was misled into a war with Iraq and now being brainwashed into conflict with Iran.

Just read Yehud Olmert's interview in TIME magazine saying after Iraq, Iran is a major threat to Israeli interests, not US... and now he's caught coaching Italian PM on what talking points he needs to say to the press.

Candid footage Shows Olmert Coaching Prodi:
http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/story.asp?j=204277570&p=zx4z78z76

[Sternlight]

Part VII

There are many good examples of how "civilized" countries wage war, including the US use of nuclear weapons, the fire-bombing of Dresden, and the actions of the British, French, Germans, and italisns during World War II. Time for the Israelis to take off the gloves; who cares what anti-semites think--they'll never be "friends" of the israelis anyway.

When it comes to simple humanity, it is true that the present reality is that there are many impoverished Arabs (and lots of rich ones who have stolen foreign aid money), living in the "occupied territories" and in Gaza. Fine; the israelis, the most powerful economic engine in the region, have repeatedly tried to help them. In return they receive terror and murder of the women and children. The way to the "Palestinian" future is to abandon terrorism, start behaving like a civilized nation, and emulate the many Israeli Arabs who are prospering by becoming civil with their neighbors. Nobody expects a love-feast, but decent civil behavior (much of which is taught in the good parts of the Quran, although often for "believers only", will solve the Palestinians problems and raise a largely impoverished and ignorant people to a level comparable with that of israel, which has the highest standard of living for its Arab citizens as well as its Jewish citizens, in the region.

[Sternlight]

Part V
The Arabs have repeatedly sworn to destroy the Jews, and have murdered hundreds of Israeli women and children as part of a deliberate policy of terror. Arab governments and heads of state, most notably the Palestinians, Syrians, and Saddam Era Iraqis have supported, encouraged and funded this gross violation of all that is decent, including international law. In contrast, the Israelis have not targeted non-combatant Arabs, and the occasional collateral damage is minor. What is more, it has been proven that most clains of Israeli atrocities have actually been staged by Palestinian propagandists, such proof to the satisfaction even of Reuters, no friend of israel.