Comments on: The 9/11 Truth Movement's Dangers

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[Syndicate]

Quick questions. Do any of you remember the terror alerts in the week before 911? Do you remember the alert from 9/10/2001. I do.

[Syndicate]

The towers fell because the steel melted. Duh. There were no bombs and the rate the towers fell matches the formula from my physics book exactly as it should. I can melt a 55 gallon steel barrel with wood and a convection current. steel doesn't have to melt to loose its strength. once the steel reaches a certain temperature its crystaliine structure begins to rearrange and its strngth curve goes to hell. The first building hit was the second to fall? This is because the plane hit higher in the building requiring more time for the steel to weaken since it had a significantly less load. There was Less building to support above the impact. Very consistent with melting steel. Besides if Bush could do this why couldn't he win in Iraq?

[grumpas]

I can believe a lot of people have come to this conclusion! Our government (Bush and his cronies) have abused their power to the point where people are no longer fooled by any of the lies! To where this bunch has lost every ounce of crediability they might have had at one time! I don't think Bush planned 9/11 personally! Even though I have frequently heard it! But, I do think he is guilty of ignoring all the warning signs! He and his cronies hated Clinton so bad that anything regarding terrorism was deemed false because Clinton might have had something to do with it! It might prove Clinton's warnings when Bush took office to be right! That is a matter of public record! Bush and his buddies liked to think they knew more than Clinton! So, various warning signs were deliberately ignored! But, all the same! He is guilty of having allowed it to happen! And should be tried for 3 thousand more deaths!

[ecuadoriana]

yeah, it's a strange thing that americans are so quick to assume it's always some other country's leaders who have the capability of being evil & corrupt, as if somehow, by virtue of his whiteness, wealth & political back pocket connections, any leader of the US is above the thirst for evil, corrupt power!

[dr rw]

folks like sandycat and others are disinfo.

The evidence for government (aspects of the govt.) in 9/11 is overwhelming. Not just little dribbles, not just the paranoid weavings of the conpsiracist's mind.

The naivete of Americans is not mirrored by the rest of the world. Which is coming to realize the lie of 9/11 and the lie of the "war on terror".

The difficulty some have in even countenancing government complicity in 9/11 is what it then means about all the cherished fantasies they once had regarding the government they implicitly trusted since childhood. It takes courage to begin to question. The cognitive dissonance is a bitter pill.

But you may as well start. Because, in the end, your lives (if you are younger) and the lives of your children quite literally hang in the balance. The velvet-gloved authoritarianism of the current overt government (and the shadow government as named by Bill Moyers) is increasing in scope and power - fostered by the unwitting belief by Americans in the memes of 'global war on terror', islamofascism, 'either you are with us or you are with the terrorists....' and other similar nonsense. Your country is 'the evil empire'. Deal with it.

And 9/11 WAS a False Flag.

Dr. Richard Welser

[dr rw]

folks like sandycat and others are disinfo.

The evidence for government (aspects of the govt.) in 9/11 is overwhelming. Not just little dribbles, not just the paranoid weavings of the conpsiracist's mind.

The naivete of Americans is not mirrored by the rest of the world. Which is coming to realize the lie of 9/11 and the lie of the "war on terror".

The difficulty some have in even countenancing government complicity in 9/11 is what it then means about all the cherished fantasies they once had regarding the government they implicitly trusted since childhood. It takes courage to begin to question. The cognitive dissonance is a bitter pill.

But you may as well start. Because, in the end, your lives (if you are younger) and the lives of your children quite literally hang in the balance. The velvet-gloved authoritarianism of the current overt government (and the shadow government as named by Bill Moyers) is increasing in scope and power - fostered by the unwitting belief by Americans in the memes of 'global war on terror', islamofascism, 'either you are with us or you are with the terrorists....' and other similar nonsense. Your country is 'the evil empire'. Deal with it.

And 9/11 WAS a False Flag.

Dr. Richard Welser

[ecuadoriana]

"Ive always said, money, fame, power and religion are THE root of evil and people like Bush who become power and money hungry will stop at NOTHING to get more of it."

AMEN, newster1 !!!!!!!!!!

[nothappyatall]

Exactly saturn-V thanks for posting those facts, there is another page I rememebr reading recently about the "construction" noises going on in the towers late at night and weekends before 9/11 on vacant but locked to the public floors. Witnesses reported hearing heavy objects moved about, unexpected, unexplained power outages which by the way also powered OFF the security cams.

NO steel framed skyscraper ever collapsed like these towers, and that includes at least a few that suffered far hotter and much worse massive fires that burned for many hours and they all stood.
The fact the Marvin Bush was head of security of the towers etc is just too coincidental for my comfort.
Bush read "my pet goat" for 7 MINUTES after being told we were under attack, 7 minutes!! sit here and watch the clock for 7 minutes and see how long it really is for someone to sit on his arse and do nothing when told the country is under attack.
This guy knew something in advance and his wierd statement about seeing the FIRST plane hit on TV the day BEFORE the event was shown on tv is yet another one and verifiable from the news archives.

Ive always said, money, fame, power and religion are THE root of evil and people like Bush who become power and money hungry will stop at NOTHING to get more of it.
http://www.bushisantichrist.com

[oleander8]

To: ressigmann

What are you smoking and where can I get some?

[oleander8]

I'm sure there's money to made by this "movement". There will be a few millionaires created as a result of this foolishness.

[bluestardad]

If you dig deeper you may find that we double crossed the Taliban with an oil deal so they let Bin Lauden Hit us.

[bluestardad]

MOVE AWAY FROM FEAR AND BUSH AND ROVE AND THIS MESS THEY HAVE GOTTEN US INTO.

[ecuadoriana]

There is a film clip of bush when he was in the classroom reading with the children. You can see the stiff, expectant look he maintains on his face the entire time. One of his SS men comes in, leans into bush & whispers something into his ear. Bush maintains the same constipated look on his face. He then continues to read to the children.

Much later, when thinking about actors preparing for a scene, or poker players putting on "the face", I thought how bush looked prior to being told about the wtc: like a bad actor trying to pretend that he doesn't know he's about to get whacked in the back of the head in the next scene.

He flat out lied about seeing it on tv.

[aeasus]

Humm, it appears that 1/3 believe conspiracy,was greatly underestamated

[saturn-v]

Quoting from The Nation:

On December 4, 2001, Bush was asked, "How did you feel when you heard about the terrorist attack?" Bush replied, "I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower--the TV was obviously on. And I used to fly myself, and I said, well, there's one terrible pilot. I said, it must have been a horrible accident. But I was whisked off there. I didn't have much time to think about it." Bush repeated the same story on January 5, 2002, stating, "First of all, when we walked into the classroom, I had seen this plane fly into the first building. There was a TV set on. And you know, I thought it was pilot error, and I was amazed that anybody could make such a terrible mistake...."

This is false. Nobody saw the jetliner crash into the first tower on television until a videotape surfaced a day later. What's more, Bush's memory not only contradicts every media report of that morning, it also contradicts what he said on the day of the attack. In his speech to the nation that evening, Bush said, "Immediately following the first attack, I implemented our government's emergency response plans." Again, this statement has never been satisfactorily explained. No one besides Bush has ever spoken of these "emergency plans," and the mere idea of their implementation is contradicted by Bush's claim that at the time, he believed the crash to have been a case of pilot error.

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20031006/alterman

[ressigmann]

Actually there was a video available just about the time the second jet hit the world trade center. I just went in to see what a coworker was yelling about and saw the second jet hit followed by video clips from the first impact. Also comparisons to the Reichstag Fire are inacurrate, this event was used to blame Hitlers political enemies and remove them. President Bush did not call a single Democrat a conspirator with the actual perpetrators. As for omissions the report also ommited the fact that Bill Clinton had several chances to get Bin Laden. Sudan had him in custody and was offering him to the U.S. and the local CIA agent gave enough evidence for a terror inditement but Bill wouldn't bite. Bin Laden was then released to go to Afganistan, Bill Clinton also arranged for the release of Mohammad Atta from prison in Israel and he thanked us by organizing 9/11. Perhaps you conspiracy theorists should look into whether Bill Clinton planned this and shifted blame to President Bush.
P.S. Personally I don't believe the last comment I'm just trying to make a point.

[saturn-v]

sandycat2 if you could stop being condescending for a moment and look at some of the sites mentioned you may be(unpleasantly) surprised. Can you explain why:

Shortly before 911 a very unusual and unprecedented amount of 'put' options were placed on Wall Street that would only be profitable if the stocks of United and American Airlines declined substantially in value? Who placed them? Why were they never redeemed? Why only United and American?

How could Bush say from the school in Florida that he saw the first plane hit the WTC on TV when there was no such video available at that time?

Isn't it just a little odd that Marvin P. Bush, the president%u2019s younger brother, was a principal in a company called Securacom that provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport?

Or that George H W Bush was meeting with Bin Laden's brother on the day of the attacks?

That for various unusual reasons there were far fewer planes available than there usually are to defend the East Coast and in fact there were none available to escort Air Force One until it had been airborne for nearly an hour?

That none of the interceptors flew at anything even close to their top speed en route to NYC and Washington, DC and that two of them were ordered to circle aimlessly over the Atlantic Ocean instead?

There are many more oddities that need explaining. Maybe you can find the answers.

[dsavereide]

Your editorial is from the point of view that the Truth Movement is wrong, that there were in fact no demolitions. But if the Truth Movement is correct, then the real danger is in sluffing it off.

The offical commission was a long time coming and they didn't address the issue of demolitions. Who can watch the video of those buildings falling so neatly floor by floor into their own footprint and not think demolition? Fire and the destruction it causes is not that orderly. You think that the beams were uniformly weakened floor by floor? And no one can explain why the third buildig collapased. It wasn't hit by a plane, only a few pieces of debris. Can our skyscrappers truely be destroyed that easily?

The real danger is in editorials like these that imply that you know the truth, when we don't.

[fascistusa]

Here's the Main Point:

The TRUTH is the TRUTH and will REMAIN the TRUTH even under careful Inspection.

So... why so worried about reopening the Case?

Why?

Hiding something?

[fascistusa]

I love this. The same CORRUPT media that fed us LIES about 9/11.

WE ARE A FASCIST COUNTRY.

ALL the pieces fit. Everything NOW makes sense.

The CBSCNNABCNBCFOX Propoganda Machine. Take a bow.

The Internet set us FREE.