Comments on: Get The Troops Out Of Iraq, And Fast

The Nation: U.S. Presence In Iraq Only Begets Us More Enemies

[themooniac]

I'm a Democrat and am in no hurry to leave JUST YET. Don't assume all Dems are ready to leave JUST YET. Got a few more things to do over there. Read this one --- http://rapidrecon.threatswatch.org/2006/12/iranian-ieds-mvp-of-global/

[bushrocks1]

Would I send my son to this war? You might ask would I send him to World War II? Or Vietnam? Maybe you would distinguish those conflicts and whether you would send your son to fight in them. But that question is misdirected in a very important way: I can't command my son to go to war. He has to make that choice. So the better question would be: would I volunteer to fight in Iraq, WW II, Vietnam? Would I volunteer to fight in any war? Respond if drafted? I don%u2019t know. I'm not equivocating, only addressing that it is a hypothetical. To a hypothetical, I can answer, sure I'd fight. But I have nightmares of battle (from my past life as a Jacobite). So how do I feel toward those who do volunteer? Impressed and maturely knowing that many things go into their decision. But I do strongly believe that a country that can't find those men is doomed. The fact that we can find them is one reason why I say there is no failure in Iraq. Objectively, I also believe it for other reasons. An attempt to establish democracy in the Middle East is a bold, brilliant, noble effort, facing a high chance of failure. That's why I greatly respect and admire those who have made the attempt--the Bush administration. They have been resolute, something I have not seen in my lifetime. They may not succeed, for reasons outside their control or fault: traitors on the home front being a big one. Now those traitors have apparently occupied the high ground. Yet... we're still in Iraq. Why?...I'm waiting.

[dogsoul]

Thank you liberals for now being able to see beyond your own partisan fog to even care about defending America against a common foe - instead, you join Al Queda's effort to disband a common foe in George Bush... you should be ashamed of yourselves that you prefer to align yourselves with Islamic Radicalism to defeat George Bush rather than align yourselves with fellow Americans to defeat Islamic Radicalism... you disgust me - you are traitors - and cowards - and your children should tremble in shame at your legacy....

[dogsoul]

Honestly, I wish it were Clinton who invaded Iraq - as he was not only VERY close to doing - but actually still to this day supports Bush for doing as well - ya see, if you liberals would actually bother to examine history - you'd know that Clinton was very much convinced on the WMD's and other things just as Bush was.... and almost invaded Iraq for the very same reasons... of course, if it were good ol' Billy - we'd see a MUCH different picture from the left and their media - I actually WISH Clinton would have bothered defending the nation in between sessions getting sucked off by the intern - at least THEN we'd get support from those same traitorous Americans that are sabotaging our efforts now.... hypocrits - traitors - cowards....

[dogsoul]

When your country needed you, you stabbed her in the back liberals... you know it - Al Queda knows it - the world knows it.... cowards.... traitors...

[dogsoul]

Where do you GET your information? My God, you cowards and enemies of the United States work tirelessly to tear down what make our country great - traitors and back stabbers who suck off the fat that our forefathers and generations before us died to provide... Unbelievable, I am actually shocked to see just how CORRECT Bin Laden and the rest of the Radical Islamic world WAS about how weak and pathetic out country really is.... I just hope there's enough true patriots in this nation to make up for your cowardice & treachory - you belong in another country - traitors. One day, when you realize that you stood against what we're fighting - and joined our enemies' side - when our people lay bleeding and hurt - you'll know it was YOUR doing... no matter how mightlily you try to shift the blame.... you'll know.... cowards.

[mrthornman]

Bush is desperately looking for a face-saving way out of this mess. At this point, he appears to not give a rats *** about the lives lost and money squandered.

It is all about him.

[swingalong]

This article says what is obvious: we can't repair the damage that Bush has willfully and remorselessly done. Let's never forget who created this holocaust and who still seems as happy as a lark just the same. Bush must be held accountable for his reckless and conscienceless actions that have caused the senseless deaths of so many countless thousands and laid waste to our country's fortune and honor.

[tibu987]

Go to michaelmoore.com for more disturbing info, titled "Cut and Run"
Regardless of what you think of Moore, just read the story and arrive at your own conclusions.
The U.S. is in a shameful situation where Bush and his ignorant cronies have forced us into a no-win war.

[tibu987]

This is worthy of some serious thought. Almost 3,000 young Americans killed, almost 30,000 injured, estimates that over 200,000 Iraqis have died, 300 billion dollars spent and counting, many Iraqi homes destroyed, their infrastructure almost all gone, many of the Iraqi's killed were not soldiers or insurgents but innocent people, many of whom were women and children. Even a high school kid can figure this out and that it is not worth continuing. In the annals of history, this will go down as the biggest and most tragic, and most preventable war of all time. We just had a young man from a suburb of Chicago, Brian Anderson, come home with only one arm left, he lost his two legs and other arm in Iraq.
I am ashamed of the actions of the U.S. government.
Enough, get out now.

[fascistusa]

as for the PROPOGANDA...

It works. It works so well.

The "news" says that anyone not agreeing with the "news" or not believing the "news" is crazy.

What do the Sheeple say?

You don't believe the "news"?? You are crazy!!

I've got Orson Wells rising up from the grave to repeat the War of The Worlds. Those silly people thought aliens were invading the Earth!! You people are so much smarter. They'd NEVER fool YOU into thinking something UNTRUE is TRUE.

Dammit..better invade Iraq...they got them there Weapons O' Mass Destruction!

[fascistusa]

Hey hey hey.

Let's not go there.

The FASCISTS in our Country are truly nice people.

They are.

Just don't give them anything sharp.

And please, keep back 10 feet at all times. The last time a FASCIST got too close to a NON-Fascist... he bit off a piece of their face. Oh, wait. That was Hannibal Lector. SO hard to tell Fascists from homical maniacs...

[mrthornman]

dogsoul:

Even many of the neocons that orginally supported Iraq are now publicly stating that we need to get out. Are they liberals?

Is that how you see the world? Anyone that does not agree with your point of view is a liberal? Bush only has about 30% approval at this point. So, that means that 70% of those polled are liberal?

[feelfree1]

dogsoul,

Re: "Geee, compared to the good ol' days under Saddam & Sons..."

The scope and the rate of the death/misery toll inflicted against the people of Iraq over the last few years, by the Bush League, has now exceeded the misery toll which took the Saddam regime decades to accumulate.

The Bush-puppet Fuhrer will be remembered as the true "Butcher of Baghdad".

You will be remembered as someone who supported him.

[dogsoul]

...and this *** can BushRocks has set up this spamming device that's all OVER the internet - so sick of it...

But I suppose you liberals got tin foil wrapped around your head & probably think it's some Bush Administration conspiracy to throw out more propoganda....

[dogsoul]

...well FeelFree, you could have posted that Nazi quote in relation to ANY war - even the one that toppled the Nazi's themselves and landed Goering on trial. My guess is that you liberals would have used these very same tactics during WWII - that of appeasement, cowardice, and treason... I thought Bin Laden & friends had greatly underestimated American Courage & Resolve when they attacked us - but now I see how right they were about certain people unworthy to call themselves American - Liberals.

655,000 civilian Iraqi deaths so far eh??? Well there ya have it folks... THIS is the kind of information your side buys into... "Millions more Have been humiliated, wrongfully imprisoned, tortured, and sexually abused" - Geee, compared to the good ol' days under Saddam & Sons...

[bushrocks1]

Would I send my son to this war? You might ask would I send him to World War II? Or Vietnam? Maybe you would distinguish those conflicts and whether you would send your son to fight in them. But that question is misdirected in a very important way: I can't command my son to go to war. He has to make that choice. So the better question would be: would I volunteer to fight in Iraq, WW II, Vietnam? Would I volunteer to fight in any war? Respond if drafted? I don%u2019t know. I'm not equivocating, only addressing that it is a hypothetical. To a hypothetical, I can answer, sure I'd fight. But I have nightmares of battle (from my past life as a Jacobite). So how do I feel toward those who do volunteer? Impressed and maturely knowing that many things go into their decision. But I do strongly believe that a country that can't find those men is doomed. The fact that we can find them is one reason why I say there is no failure in Iraq. Objectively, I also believe it for other reasons. An attempt to establish democracy in the Middle East is a bold, brilliant, noble effort, facing a high chance of failure. That's why I greatly respect and admire those who have made the attempt--the Bush administration. They have been resolute, something I have not seen in my lifetime. They may not succeed, for reasons outside their control or fault: traitors on the home front being a big one. Now those traitors have apparently occupied the high ground. Yet... we're still in Iraq. Why?...I'm waiting.

[marcodele]

So if a soldier in Iraq is a liberal democrat, he's a coward and a traitor? Oh my, we are so full of our Limbaugh selves, aren't we?

[feelfree1]

Re: "The Administration has tried training the Iraqi army and police and has only empowered and supplied more militias, who have used the police and now the army as cover for their death squads."

I think that we can thank John Negroponte and Ahmad Chalabi for this accomplishment.

[feelfree1]

Dogsoul,

Re: "War is hell, and despite our efforts to restrict casualties to non-civilians..."

655,000 excess violent Iraqi deaths so far, by the best available estimate, as a result of the brutal and illegal U.S. war of aggression against the people of Iraq. Millions more Have been humiliated, wrongfully imprisoned, tortured, and sexually abused.

Nice going.

You must be very proud.