Comments on: Gay Marriage Policy No Linchpin For GOP

American Prospect: Democrats Won States That Passed Anti-Gay Marriage Measures; Lost In One That Didn't

[webdepot]

Oh, and krisdave1 -
Next time you are in church, try to count the number of adulterers around you.. Mark 10:11-12

According to the most recent census statistics, if you are a couple still married to your original spouse, you are a minority in the U.S.
That is only one example of what I meant by hypocritical... they profess to love Jesus and the bible is their guide to life and living... yet they ignore the parts of the bible that cramp their choices... it's easier to jump beds than work out problems with a spouse.

[bioignis]

Some many people defend their prejudice of homosexuality on the basis that it offends their personal religion and that gay people could choose to not be gay, while neglecting to realize that they personally made a conscious choice to believe their religion. People are not born believing some faith - they make a choice that has nothing to do with any inherent genetic factors.

That choice to follow a particular belief and not be discriminated against for it is protected by law as minority status. I don't have a right to discriminate against you for your hateful religious attitudes, so why should you have the right to discriminate against me for mine "choices"?

The law protects you from my hateful attitudes toward your religious choice, why can't I have laws that to protect me from yours?

And if your answer must be based on religion, tell me what happened to separation of church and state? And before you go on about the religious aspects of the nation's founding Father's, recall that their religion also allowed men to own slaves and women had extremely limited roles society.

[webdepot]

krisdave1 -
If that is your belief, then good for you.. and more power to you.. Am I affended?? Not in the least. What is important is that you believe in your position for rational (to you) reasons that are beyond my place to comment on.
I prefer to take from the bible (I admit I'm not nearly as religious as I used to be... I've met too many hypocrits in church, no offense intended) the lessons of acceptance, tolerance, love and treating others as I would want to be treated.

[krisdave1]

I know that some of you may be upset that I do not agree with how you feel, that's not what is important, the truth is what is important. Most often the truth is not popular. I have family members and I know several people that live a gay life style. I am not passing my judgement against them or anyone else, I just happen to believe what the bible says. I also do not believe in living together, *** outside of marriage,or adultry. If this should offend anyone, I would stand by this as well. I am a Christian, I admit that no one is perfect, but the Word of God makes no excuse for me going against what it says. I am not offended by you believing what you believe in, but I will not agree with you or change my mind.

[krisdave1]

I don't agree with homosexuality. I do agree witht the bible. There is only one God. I know that the bible does not have to make me feel good, but it is either a whole truth or a whole lie. It can not be truth when I agree and a lie when I don't. You're right God does not make junk. More so God loves us all, but He hates sin. I say that if you are so sure that this you are right, then don't throw the church and the bible into this. On that point, you can't make it line up with God made men feel like women or women feel like men. Which is it? When you get mad at those that believe that the bible says that if a man lie with mankind as he lieth with a woman, both have commited an abomination: they shall be put to death Leviticus 20:13,I know this is the Old Testament, read Galatians 5:18-21, I Cor 6:9-20. God says He changes not. Now I present to you evidence that this act is not of God. If you base your beliefs on God, then base you evidence likewise. As I stated before call it anything but marriage.

[rafterman1]

"Only by God will we ever be judged rightly"


Yes, GOD will judge, not YOU. Unfotunately there are too many people around handing out judgments on people they don't agree with like they were God themselves. Unfortunately, the ones who call themselves Christians act the least like it.

[bks59]

There is already confusion on the subject, what about individuals having *** reassignement surgery. If born a man and through surgery becomes a woman, can then this person marry a man? In Texas and Kansas courts ruled this marriage is not legal, though elsewhere it is. Further in Texas and Kansas because of how the court's decsion is worded, only persons born as a man can marry a woman. If man or woman has *** reassignment, then can a man marry a man and a woamn marry a woman?

Google it, it is really in the courts.

[osidebear]

krisdave1, with respect, I am gay. I assure you I did not choose it anymore than you chose to be heterosexual.

That is my evidence, anecdotal though it may be. It's the truth. Your God may call it wrong, but that does not mean that God does.

[yborangel]

Dear krisdave1,

So, you are bisexual? Do you still remember the day you made the conscious decision to be heterosexual? Did you look around, and consider the ramifications before making your CHOICE? How did it feel to "pick" your team??

For most people, there is never a "decision" or "choice" to be made. There is NO option. Straight is straight. No question. Ever.

Same with gay. No question. Ever.

ANY doubt involved in a person's "choice" is usually related to the concerns of a family member who will not accept the lifestyle.

The only CHOICE involved is choosing to live your truth or live a lie. We are all as God created us...and God doesn't make junk!

[krisdave1]

No I have to say that in this case you have no evidence that one is born gay. You have the word of people that have made the choice to live this way. I believe that God does not make mistakes, He's always right and He says that this is wrong. Now if you believe that church is the place to settle this argument then, read the bible. Without the bible you have no church. And the bible says, " be not decieved that homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God. I Cor 6-9 This is parphrased.